Originally posted by Igniz
Here are the reasons why LT didn't fight the Chaos King.2.The fact the Chaos King is Eternity's dark half earns him a place in Living Tribunal's faces.And if Living Tribunal fights the Chaos King, he ends up slapping one of his faces in the process.
Although I will say LT would beat CK.
Wait... What? Are you saying mikaboshi is one of the living tribunals faces?
And you are saying that while powerful the living tribunal would still beat chaos king?
Originally posted by zopzop
Molecule Man is all over the place power wise. Recently, though not as recent as his Sentry fight, he threw down with the Beyonder (who he extracted by force from Kosmos).The fight was wrecking havoc across ALL space and time simultaneously. Just as MM was going to kill the Beyonder, Kubik steps in and begs him not to. Not for Beyonder's sake but for the sake of the multiverse (killing a being of that level of power would wreck havoc with creation). Keep in mind this was POST ret-con MM and Beyonder!
If it's that Molecule Man, CK is toast.
I remember that. Also their fight caused Kryton to blow up and making superman a orphan, at least thats what they alluded to. Their fight spanned publishing companies!!! Lets see CK do that!
Originally posted by rotiartall abstracts are part of living tribunals faces,
Wait... What? Are you saying mikaboshi is one of the living tribunals faces?And you are saying that while powerful the living tribunal would still beat chaos king?
and he does not fight abstracts because there doing what they are supposed to do ( Ex:chaos king , Abraxas)
people like shuma gorath, molecule man, beyonder, thanos with hotu, are not abstracts (although abstract level) so there actions are not natural thus LT will fight them
You guys must not know what MM just did. You are basing the fight off a low showing against the Sentry. MM forgot how to use his powers and wasn't at his full potential. He trained for months and got back to his potential (multiversal level).
I don't go by low showings but high ones (especially if they are more current).
Originally posted by h1a8
You guys must not know what MM just did. You are basing the fight off a low showing against the Sentry. MM forgot how to use his powers and wasn't at his full potential. He trained for months and got back to his potential (multiversal level).I don't go by low showings but high ones (especially if they are more current).
What did he just do?
Originally posted by h1a8
You guys must not know what MM just did. You are basing the fight off a low showing against the Sentry. MM forgot how to use his powers and wasn't at his full potential. He trained for months and got back to his potential (multiversal level).I don't go by low showings but high ones (especially if they are more current).
Originally posted by King Kandy
Based on what? Defeating a cube being? "rocking" the multiverse (a feat shared by Odin?)
This "rocking the multiverse" was backed up with on panel evidence : other dimensions, time lines, Watchers going blind, etc...
Kubik mentioning that Beyonder's death would critically affect the entire multiverse.
The LT/Eternity/Chaos/Order calling MM omnipotent and witnessing the battle unfold.
Originally posted by zopzop
This "rocking the multiverse" was backed up with on panel evidence : other dimensions, time lines, Watchers going blind, etc...Kubik mentioning that Beyonder's death would critically affect the entire multiverse.
The LT/Eternity/Chaos/Order calling MM omnipotent and witnessing the battle unfold.
And that's a mere cube being, which we know is far below eternity. So you yourself there, just proved that you don't need to be Eternity level to produce those multiversal effects.
People say Odin is omnipotent all the time. Again show me something he didn't do. Cube beings are below celestials so this really proves nothing.
Originally posted by King Kandy
OK? I still see nothing indicating he is eternity level.And that's a mere cube being, which we know is far below eternity. So you yourself there, just proved that you don't need to be Eternity level to produce those multiversal effects.
People say Odin is omnipotent all the time. Again show me something he didn't do. Cube beings are below celestials so this really proves nothing.
Based on feats, Cube beings >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Celestials. While we're at it based on feats, Cube beings>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eternity.
But going back to the whole omnipotent thing, who has the LT called omnipotent before? Because that's who was throwing that word around concerning MM.
Owen Reece (as "evil Molecule Man" from FF-Annual #27 is ridiculously powerful.
He was far beyond a Cube being, ... and at one point,
Owen basically told Beyonder he was "infinities" above him.
And their battle not only shook all reality,
but it also warped reality across realities on a "Trans-Multiversal scale"
Which means beyond Multiversal ...
Anyhow this is how it all transpired.
This is incredible:
At the end of the issue,
"the Time Variance Authority" who operate literally on an Omniversal level,
are dealing with the madness Molecule Man and Beyonder's battle did
to possibly billions or more Timelines.
He's mentioning ridiculously huge numbers before entering the office,
and then aside from that the other Timelines defined by paper work
shows the scale of affect Beyonder and Molecule had across All Creation.
