Thanos gauntlet

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Show me ANY sign of pain or damage or ANYTHING that suggested they were tanking an explosion exponentionally greater than anything else in comics ever. There was ZERO sign of anything like that. Yet, when we've seen Micheal and Lucifer in other comics... we've seen damage.. we've seen them show signs of damage from much less. So, how do you explain that?

Every time they got hurt by a spear or sword, those weren't normal spears and swords. They were angelic weapons. It's entirely plausible for Lucifer and Michael to tank big bangs, and still be hurt by the weapons of angels.

Regardless, Lucifer took a big bang, on panel, with no extenuating circumstances canonically given. That's really the beginning and end of the debate.

Originally posted by cdtm
Every time they got hurt by a spear or sword, those weren't normal spears and swords. They were angelic weapons. It's entirely plausible for Lucifer and Michael to tank big bangs, and still be hurt by the weapons of angels.

Regardless, Lucifer took a big bang, on panel, with no extenuating circumstances canonically given. That's really the beginning and end of the debate.

Please be aware of something before you act like it was as cut and dry as you implied.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he reshaped the energies which means he controlled them. It was even called a controlled detonation on panel.

Please be aware of something before you act like it was as cut and dry as you implied.

He was still standing point blank next to Michael when the detonation went off. The fact he shaped those energies doesn't prove anything.

Originally posted by cdtm
He was still standing point blank next to Michael when the detonation went off. The fact he shaped those energies doesn't prove anything.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]Yes, it proves he controlled the detonation which changes the feat drastically. He shaped those energies so acting like he can tank a multiversal blast he doesn't control is speculative since he's never done so.

No, it's speculative to assume that an ability to shape energies post detonation has any bearing on tanking them. And the fact Michael has, in fact, hurt Lucifer with a focused beam of same energies proves Lucifer isn't naturally immune to their effect.

Angelic spears are also less powerful than a multiversal blast and they could still hurt him as could any of the japanese gods, etc. In combat lucy was very hurtable just very smart.

Since he took Michaels explosion without injury, yet was injured by angelic weapons, I disagree.

Originally posted by cdtm
No, it's speculative to assume that an ability to shape energies post detonation has any bearing on tanking them. And the fact Michael has, in fact, hurt Lucifer with a focused beam of same energies proves Lucifer isn't naturally immune to their effect.

Since he took Michaels explosion without injury, yet was injured by angelic weapons, I disagree.

He controlled the energies released and you just contradicted yourself. If michael can hurt him that means this blast would have hurt killed him as well if he didn't have control over them.

I'm glad you destroyed your own argument you saved me the trouble.

Originally posted by SquallX
So pray tell who were the heroes that battle Thanos when he had the Gems in that story arc.

Even death recognized thanos power exceeded her own... So did eternity...

At least the Heroes that battled AM consisted of Pre-Crisis Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Super Boy Prime, the most powerful magic users of said time.

Form what i heard, Black Kat was one of the heroes that were chosen to battle against Thanos. Hell, it was said that Captain America battle against Thanos in H2h, and he survived.

Also stop with the bullshit of Thanos beating himself. It was specifically pointed out, that TOOA made Thanos his *****.

Where as AM took a creation blast form Spectre, and still survived. And creation was a multiversal blast.

You mean besides virtually all the heroes in marvel? And all the abstracts including eternity order chaos hate etc?

When thanos fought captain America he was playing around with him....

Originally posted by SquallX
So pray tell who were the heroes that battle Thanos when he had the Gems in that story arc.

At least the Heroes that battled AM consisted of Pre-Crisis Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Super Boy Prime, the most powerful magic users of said time.

Form what i heard, Black Kat was one of the heroes that were chosen to battle against Thanos. Hell, it was said that Captain America battle against Thanos in H2h, and he survived.

Also stop with the bullshit of Thanos beating himself. It was specifically pointed out, that TOOA made Thanos his *****.

Where as AM took a creation blast form Spectre, and still survived. And creation was a multiversal blast.

Originally posted by cdtm
Every time they got hurt by a spear or sword, those weren't normal spears and swords. They were angelic weapons. It's entirely plausible for Lucifer and Michael to tank big bangs, and still be hurt by the weapons of angels.

Regardless, Lucifer took a big bang, on panel, with no extenuating circumstances canonically given. That's really the beginning and end of the debate.

That is the EXACT point... first, those shouldn't hurt lucifer or micheal more than an exponentionally greater explosion than anything we've seen on panel. Second, it hasn't just been swords or weapons. Michael has hurt lucifer with a simple blast... yet those same energies from michael ONLY EXPONETIONALLY bigger didn't do a thing to him? That actually makes sense to you? Jesus :facepalm: The fact of the matter is.. that was HIS job to carry out a creation story for a being way more powerful than either of them combined. It's a CREATION STORY, and just like every other one, doesn't involve durability feats for it to happen. Both Lucifer and Michael were tools to get the job done and it was the will of the prescence. There was no tanking of anything. To say nothing of the fact that he didn't tank it.. he manipulated it... which even further proves my point