Originally posted by Spire
facepalmJust explain it and stop dodging.
Even though Glads holds a physical edge against Thor (Rage, please don't reply), Thor is overall more powerful. Gladiator also have a bad habit of boasting during combat when he have his opponents dead to rights which is another downfall of his against an opponent like Thor. Then I usually don't look at feats and praise them like you all do.
Even though Hulk has destroyed planetary objects and held planets together, he isn't physically harming Galactus even though Galactus doesn't share these feats. Even though Prime has pulled planets, he isn't beating Odin... you get my point.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
His confidence isn't really a factor in comics period unless it's been stated to be diminished, which is something that others have tried to twist into something the comics don't even begin to show.Case in point, Gladiator is "fully confident" unless the comic states or alludes to him not being in that state. People occasionally have the mis-conception that "fully confident" means we discount all of Gladiator's low and average showings and exclusively focus on his high end feats only, which is ridiculous and doesn't even make sense.
So, really, a "fully confident" Gladiator is just Gladiator as he's shown in like 99% of the comics he's appeared in. And he has low, mid, and high feats just like everyone else does in that state.
I disagree. It's impossible to know how high his confidence is simply because it isn't written. The same as we don't know how angry the Hulk is every time. Comics said that his strength derive on his level of confidence.
You don't have the right to make up a baseless rule suggesting that Gladiator is always at full confidence in comics unless stated otherwise. I can simply say that he is always at average confidence unless comics state otherwise. My rule would be more reasonable.
In reality, I would be more confident if I were fighting a 5 year old child vs. someone my own age and size. Obviously Gladiator can have more confidence fighting an ordinary human vs. someone like Surfer or Thor. So to suggest his confidence level is ALWAYS at the highest when he is about to fight mighty beings is asinine.
Originally posted by carver9
Then I usually don't look at feats and praise them like you all do.
Originally posted by carver9
Even 80s Supes doesn't have a statement saying that he can fly at 100 times the speed of light. To my knowledge, Gladiator is the only being in comics that has actually been clocked at those speeds.
Originally posted by carver9
... you get my point.
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Originally posted by carver9
Even though Glads holds a physical edge against Thor (Rage, please don't reply), Thor is overall more powerful. Gladiator also have a bad habit of boasting during combat when he have his opponents dead to rights which is another downfall of his against an opponent like Thor. Then I usually don't look at feats and praise them like you all do.Even though Hulk has destroyed planetary objects and held planets together, he isn't physically harming Galactus even though Galactus doesn't share these feats. Even though Prime has pulled planets, he isn't beating Odin... you get my point.
The challenge still stands. A discussion over who has the better strength feats or who is stronger would end this on going discussion. I'd prefer a battle zone as you can't chicken out without pretty much proving you aren't up to the task and in such a stage, your bullshit arguments won't fly.
Do you think Prime is physically superior to Galactus?
Originally posted by carver9
Even though Glads holds a physical edge against Thor (Rage, please don't reply), Thor is overall more powerful. Gladiator also have a bad habit of boasting during combat when he have his opponents dead to rights which is another downfall of his against an opponent like Thor. Then I usually don't look at feats and praise them like you all do.Even though Hulk has destroyed planetary objects and held planets together, he isn't physically harming Galactus even though Galactus doesn't share these feats. Even though Prime has pulled planets, he isn't beating Odin... you get my point.
Amazing!
However, your dream doesn't address the fact that Thor doesn't have these Gladiator feats you go on about and that he can't be more powerful than Gladiator let alone defeat him... unless your feats are worthless.
Also, please post the scans of Hulk holding planets together.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The challenge still stands. A discussion over who has the better strength feats or who is stronger would end this on going discussion. I'd prefer a battle zone as you can't chicken out without pretty much proving you aren't up to the task and in such a stage, your bullshit arguments won't fly.Do you think Prime is physically superior to Galactus?
Rage, I don't do battlezones and honestly, you would lose. Thor doesn't have the type of feats that Glads have.
Originally posted by Spire
Amazing!However, your dream doesn't address the fact that Thor doesn't have these Gladiator feats you go on about and that he can't be more powerful than Gladiator let alone defeat him... unless your feats are worthless.
Also, please post the scans of Hulk holding planets together.
Thor doesn't need to bust planets or tank solar system destroying planets to prove that he is on Glads level... Thor has proven how powerful he is, even against the best of them.
Originally posted by cdtm
"I can kick your ass.""Ok, lets fight."
"I don't do fights, but I can kick your ass."
Lol... I get your point. I'm not prepared for a battlezone. Me knowing Rage, he is very organized and he already have everything in place whereas it would take me months to gather everything. I'm not prepared for Rage at all and I would literally get stomped but if I had time, I would win but overall, I don't like the idea or BZ, seems pointless to me.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor doesn't need to bust planets or tank solar system destroying planets to prove that he is on Glads level... Thor has proven how powerful he is, even against the best of them.
*Sigh*
Which one is it carver:
1. Thor isn't as powerful as Gladiator and can't beat Gladiator.
2. Gladiator's supposed feats are worthless. People that don't have his feats are more powerful and can beat him.
Either way, you are going to have to nut up and pick a position.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I get your point. I'm not prepared for a battlezone. Me knowing Rage, he is very organized and he already have everything in place whereas it would take me months to gather everything. I'm not prepared for Rage at all and I would literally get stomped but if I had time, I would win but overall, I don't like the idea or BZ, seems pointless to me.
baka
And here I thought I had no chance based on your claims.
How about I find all of Gladiator's best strength feats, and send them to you? It's not a battle zone deciding who'd win -even I'm not that cruel- but who's stronger.
Originally posted by Spire
*Sigh*Which one is it carver:
1. Thor isn't as powerful as Gladiator and can't beat Gladiator.
2. Gladiator's supposed feats are worthless. People that don't have his feats are more powerful and can beat him.
Either way, you are going to have to nut up and pick a position.
I already explained this to you. Even though Glads holds a "physical edge", Thor overall is more powerful. Its just that simple. Even though Hulk holds a physical edge over Thor, Thor overall is "more powerful".
Even though Supes is physically stronger than Surfer, Surfer is overall "more powerful". Do I need to continue? This isn't hard to understand Spire.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
bakaAnd here I thought I had no chance based on your claims.
How about I find all of Gladiator's best strength feats, and send them to you? It's not a battle zone deciding who'd win -even I'm not that cruel- but who's stronger.
😆 so you have confidence huh?
Naah, ill rather do it myself if I ever decide to do it. Why are you even debating against me right now when I have told you a million times that Thor would crush Glads? I don't get you Rage.