Originally posted by NemeBroI don't care how decent he was. Kratos was used by the gods and Zeus to eliminate Ares. The end result wasn't Kratos' fault since he was tasked by the gods which included Zeus himself.
Okay technically it was Athena's fault, who planned it.Point still stands, Zeus was manipulated just as much as Kratos was, yet Zeus before the box was opened was much more fundamentally decent than Kratos.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Fair point. Though Kratos still released Hope back to the 'many'.Batman? Odysseus himself? 😛 Then again, you think Batman isn't awesome.
Please. Greek Myth will always be > Disney & FF. 😛
Yeah, all 5 that he left alive.
Actually, yes. That is exactly who I'd compare him to. And I don't but Odysseus and Batman are fundamentally different.
It will always be easier to pull off. The fact that they took two things like Disney and Final Fantasy and actually made a decent product out of it however is > GOW. 😛
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kratos lives for war yes but he didn't trick anyone into slaughtering their own family so no he wasn't anywhere near the same level as Ares.
Kratos never had anyone like himself working below him like Ares did. And Kratos killed more people. Kratos>Ares.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't care how decent he was. Kratos was used by the gods and Zeus to eliminate Ares. The end result wasn't Kratos' fault since he was tasked by the gods which included Zeus himself.
Kratos is and always was a dickhead. Zeus, whore nature aside, was never that bad as far as I know.
By the way, Pokemon still wins. Keeping it on topic.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelAres had no redeeming qualities unlike Kratos who protected Pandora and loved his family.
Yeah, all 5 that he left alive.Actually, yes. That is exactly who I'd compare him to. And I don't but Odysseus and Batman are fundamentally different.
It will always be easier to pull off. The fact that they took two things like Disney and Final Fantasy and actually made a decent product out of it however is > GOW. 😛
Kratos never had anyone like himself working below him like Ares did. And Kratos killed more people. Kratos>Ares.
Kratos is and always was a dickhead. Zeus, whore nature aside, was never that bad as far as I know.
By the way, Pokemon still wins. Keeping it on topic.
Killing more people doesn't mean you are more evil than someone especially in times of war. That's a terrible argument.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ares had no redeeming qualities unlike Kratos who protected Pandora and loved his family.Killing more people doesn't mean you are more evil than someone especially in times of war. That's a terrible argument.
Just because someone has no redeeming qualities, doesn't make them not better than Kratos.
It is when you start the ****ing war! 😐
Originally posted by quanchi112I would actually admit Ares is more evil, "worse" than Kratos.
I don't care how decent he was. Kratos was used by the gods and Zeus to eliminate Ares. The end result wasn't Kratos' fault since he was tasked by the gods which included Zeus himself.
Zeus was not, at least, not at the start.
No it was Athena's.
Does not change that Kratos is morally reprehensible, evil.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelYes, it does. Kratos is a better man so he lived longer and to defeat his enemies unlike Ares who only really seemed passionate about war and destroying people.
Just because someone has no redeeming qualities, doesn't make them not better than Kratos.[b]It is when you start the ****ing war!
😐 [/B]
When the dictator kills you you come back and kill the dictator. Zeus started a personal war with Kratos.
Zeus fled and requested his gods so Kratos took the Titans to even things out.
Originally posted by NemeBroYou have no choice but to admit it.
I would actually admit Ares is more evil, "worse" than Kratos.Zeus was not, at least, not at the start.
No it was Athena's.
Does not change that Kratos is morally reprehensible, evil.
Well if he didn't change then Kratos would never have come after him in the first place.
Zeus aided him in his quest and wanted Ares done in as well iirc.
Kratos has redeeming qualities though and isn't all evil.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, it does. Kratos is a better man so he lived longer and to defeat his enemies unlike Ares who only really seemed passionate about war and destroying people.When the dictator kills you you come back and kill the dictator. Zeus started a personal war with Kratos.
Zeus fled and requested his gods so Kratos took the Titans to even things out.
Being a better person equates to living longer?
Zeus was in the right when he killed Kratos though.
And cause more harm while he was at it huh?
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelNo being a better fighter, warrior.
Being a better person equates to living longer?Zeus was in the right when he killed Kratos though.
And cause more harm while he was at it huh?
No, he wasn't. He was scared of Kratos and deceived him out of a personal fear of Kratos.
Hey, Kratos came after Zeus and fled so zeus takes full credit for turning it into a war not Kratos.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No being a better fighter, warrior.No, he wasn't. He was scared of Kratos and deceived him out of a personal fear of Kratos.
Hey, Kratos came after Zeus and fled so zeus takes full credit for turning it into a war not Kratos.
Athena is a better warrior that Kratos and Zeus?
Justified. Kratos literally ****ed the world over just so he could have revenge. Had Zeus succeeded all that would have been avoided.
Uh, no. Every side that participates in a war is to blame for it. The victims of a war fight to defend themselves because they don't want to be killed. Kratos was killed and was better off dead. This is a fact.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Yeah, all 5 that he left alive.Actually, yes. That is exactly who I'd compare him to. And I don't but Odysseus and Batman are fundamentally different.
It will always be easier to pull off. The fact that they took two things like Disney and Final Fantasy and actually made a decent product out of it however is > GOW. 😛
By the way, Pokemon still wins. Keeping it on topic.
More like a small population.
Indeed they are. One tends to be cunning, while the other just uses his intelligence for detective work. I'm not getting into personality.
Good point, however it still falls, as GoW has mythical creatures, and Myth is still >>> Cartoons. 😛
Nah, Kratos stomps, via MK amps.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
More like a small population.Good point, however it still falls, as GoW has mythical creatures, and Myth is still >>> Cartoons. 😛
Nah, Kratos stomps, via MK amps.
Fine, 10 people. 😛
Good thing KH has no mythical creatures. Case in point: In KH2, I get to fly on a Pegasus while fighting a Hydra. Awesome. awesome
Amps? mmm
Originally posted by TheAuraAngelNo, Kratos is a better warrior than Ares hence he lived longer and we actually follow his exploits around so it appears he kills more.
Athena is a better warrior that Kratos and Zeus?Justified. Kratos literally ****ed the world over just so he could have revenge. Had Zeus succeeded all that would have been avoided.
Uh, no. Every side that participates in a war is to blame for it. The victims of a war fight to defend themselves because they don't want to be killed. Kratos was killed and was better off dead. This is a fact.
The gods time needed to end. The world would survive quit acting like it was all Kratos' fault and like he doesn't have a right to get revenge on the guy who tried to kill him.
Kratos being dead and being better off is a matter of perspective. You acting as if Kratos is some eternally evil genocidal maniac needs to stop.
Originally posted by NemeBroIn seeking revenge he is just acting in character. Consequences be damned. He was never some heroic character but he doesn't just slaughter anyone in his path and did care for Pandora.
Kratos killed MILLIONS for his own petty revenge.He is NOT justified in doing so, pretending he is is pure denial.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Fine, 10 people. 😛Good thing KH has no mythical creatures. Case in point: In KH2, I get to fly on a Pegasus while fighting a Hydra. Awesome. awesome
Amps? mmm
More like 100 in one area, 100 more in another area, and so on. 😛 If it's one thing humans are good at, it's surviving and procreating.
Dayum, totally forgot about Hercules. Ahh well, it's only one small world when compared to the rest of KH, so GoW still wins for being entirely about Greek Myth. 😛
Yeah, like Shao Kahn giving Kratos Shang Tsung's soul and power. It helped Sindel pwn through most of the good guys on the MK Cast, by herself.
Originally posted by quanchi112He was in-character.
In seeking revenge he is just acting in character. Consequences be damned. He was never some heroic character but he doesn't just slaughter anyone in his path and did care for Pandora.
He was acting like a selfish monster. Does he have some redeeming traits? Yeah like one or two, but the man IS a monster, a selfish dick whose actions are NOT justified.
Originally posted by NemeBroKilling Zeus for what Zeus did was justified. If you try to kill me and the funny thing was he did succeed then it's justified to try and kill him.
He was in-character.He was acting like a selfish monster. Does he have some redeeming traits? Yeah like one or two, but the man IS a monster, a selfish dick whose actions are NOT justified.
He is selfish but he didn't just start a vendetta with Zeus for no reason hence the justification.