Odin VS The Annihilators

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Odin VS The Annihilators

Odin VS The Annihilators

no bfr. no illusion casting allowed.

silver surfer (most powerful version)
gladiator (at his highest known confidence)
beta ray bill
quasar
ronan
ikon

who wins?

1. no prep

2. 24 hours prep for the team

The team loses the first and might lose the second depending in what kind of prep they can pull from their *sses.

The Annihilators die in both scenarios.

I don't really understand the point of putting these type of heralds against Odin. One shots all around.

Not really sure what they can come up with in 24 hours. They don't have a plot device prep master like Reed on the team.

right, they only have silver surfer's galactus connections. what a rip off.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't really understand the point of putting these type of heralds against Odin. One shots all around.

Not really sure what they can come up with in 24 hours. They don't have a plot device prep master like Reed on the team.

Well, IF Surfer can synthetize the Odin force, AND they somehow use the Quantum Bands and the Universal Weapon to focus the energy and drain Odin, MAYBE they could do some damage. They've never shown this kind of tactics though.

Originally posted by wildernesss
right, they only have silver surfer's galactus connections. what a rip off.

And what in the hell does that entail? Is he gonna get Galactus to fight the battle for him? Get his hands on the Ultimate Nullifier?

Originally posted by Bentley
Well, IF Surfer can synthetize the Odin force, AND they somehow use the Quantum Bands and the Universal Weapon to focus the energy and drain Odin, MAYBE they could do some damage. They've never shown this kind of tactics though.

1. A lot of big if's.

2. Draining Odin is a possibility and it could work. IF he was unconscious, weakened or there was some other extenuating circumstance. This is based on the scene with Annihilus and the Cosmic Rod. In the middle of a battle however? I doubt it. Especially since Odin has energy draining capabilities of his own that are pretty vast, especially when you consider the fact that he enchanted Mjolnir. Besides, with Odin's power reserves, even if he let it happen, it wouldn't matter. Not imho. Think of the Quasar/Surfer fight except there being a significantly larger gap in power.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And what in the hell does that entail? Is he gonna get Galactus to fight the battle for him? Get his hands on the Ultimate Nullifier?

i dunno. maybe galactus could give surfer some PIS device for an easy win.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1. A lot of big if's.

2. Draining Odin is a possibility and it could work. IF he was unconscious, weakened or there was some other extenuating circumstance. This is based on the scene with Annihilus and the Cosmic Rod. In the middle of a battle however? I doubt it. Especially since Odin has energy draining capabilities of his own that are pretty vast, especially when you consider the fact that he enchanted Mjolnir. Besides, with Odin's power reserves, even if he let it happen, it wouldn't matter. Not imho. Think of the Quasar/Surfer fight except there being a significantly larger gap in power.

We already saw the use of the Universal Weapon to accelerate a monumental feat, because transmutating two stars it's massive considering what the Annis have done in matter transmutation. The incremental gain in the combination would, imo, be enough acceleration to pose a threat to Odin.

Of course, in 24 hours of prep they might not make it, and it's not a foolproof plan either.

simple. Surfer calls Galactus, explains what's up.
Galactus raises an eyebrow [somewhere across the vast omniverse, Odin dies], tells Surfer to stop wasting time playing with his friends and go find more snacks... "Galactus has the munchies!" ... "oh and Odin's dead".

the end.

with prep, surfer blasts odin with the nullifier. roll credits.

If the Surfer is to remain in character he wouldn't shoot the nullifier.

surfer could give quasar the nullifier. quasar had some experience with it during the infinity war.

If Surfer stays in character he wouldn't give the Nullifier to anyone 🙂

Originally posted by Bentley
We already saw the use of the Universal Weapon to accelerate a monumental feat, because transmutating two stars it's massive considering what the Annis have done in matter transmutation. The incremental gain in the combination would, imo, be enough acceleration to pose a threat to Odin.

Of course, in 24 hours of prep they might not make it, and it's not a foolproof plan either.

Really? I don't. Working together they fused two Stars. An impressive feat no doubt, but on the scale that Odin's worked on, it's....well, I don't want to belittle it. They'll be nothing more than an annoyance in a direct confrontation.

And since we're on the topic, Ronan's Universal Weapon was proven inferior to Mjolnir and couldn't even begin analyzing it despite it's matter manipulation abilities:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsRonan1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsRonan2.jpg

Once again it proves to be noticeably inferior to the power of Asgard:
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/8066/universalweapon1.jpg
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/1994/universalweapon2.jpg

Not exactly the best track record when the Universal Weapon is the crux of a strategy against Odin himself.

Annihilators get annihilated

Originally posted by Bentley
If Surfer stays in character he wouldn't give the Nullifier to anyone 🙂

lol....surfer's character has fluctuated as of late. he seems to be more edgy, aggressive, etc. however, i agree that he has principally been depicted as a pacifist throughout most of his tenure as a hero.

Odin.

Personally I think that the Team is powerful enough to take both scenarios for a majority. But I'm not sure how powerful Odin is these days. I want to see first how he does against Galactus.