Odin VS The Annihilators

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Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
17 years... and he was dead. Let's wait and see how powerful his new incarnation is, shouldn't we? BTW how powerful would you rate the new reincarnated Thor compared to his classic self?

The mid 90's are a far cry from the Silver Age. I can post even superior demonstrations of power from the late 90's and early 00's.

You can wait if you want bro, but if Odin is portrayed as anything less than beyond a herald, I'll call bullshit. As it stands, I doubt that this won't be the case, not when he's fighting Galactus to the death.

The Asgardians aren't as powerful in Midgard as the rest of the Nine Worlds but I don't think that really applies to Thor. So he's no more or less than his classic self in regards to power.

Sr J-Bieb Dead

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Silver Age ended in 1970. For both Marvel and DC. Marvel never retconned their entire history (let alone the three or four times DC has done it).

Thor never sneezed an entire solar system away. Surfer never tugged a chain pf planets through space. Doom never created a time machine out of a aspirin, a hand-mirror, and an alarm clock. PC Silver Age DC characters did those things. Seriously, Silver Age DC and Silver Age Marvel have little, if nothing to do with each other.

I'm also astounded by people ignoring the fact that Odin recreated an entire planet simply by walking around in empty space. What? That isn't a powerful enough feat for Odin? Christ.

Didn't you hear, Marvel had it's own Crisis. Feats from back then don't count obviously

Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The mid 90's are a far cry from the Silver Age. I can post even superior demonstrations of power from the late 90's and early 00's.

You can wait if you want bro, but if Odin is portrayed as anything less than beyond a herald, I'll call bullshit. As it stands, I doubt that this won't be the case, not when he's fighting Galactus to the death.

The Asgardians aren't as powerful in Midgard as the rest of the Nine Worlds but I don't think that really applies to Thor. So he's no more or less than his classic self in regards to power.

Personally I hope that Odin wins. Though when he does it will be with a plot device.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Didn't you hear, Marvel had it's own Crisis. Feats from back then don't count obviously

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Actually they had their little crisis, and the Asgardians are reborn or "new" versions of their former selfs. And I never said they don't count, I just want to know if the reborn Asgardians are on the same level.

Sr J-Bieb Dead

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
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Actually they had their little crisis, and the Asgardians are reborn or "new" versions of their former selfs. And I never said they don't count, I just want to know if the reborn Asgardians are on the same level.

Except they aren't from a completely different universe with different origins. Plus they haven't had a noticeable gap in power.

You just said Marvel had it's own PC days though. Seems like you want to ignore older feats and stories to me just because DC did

Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Except they aren't from a completely different universe with different origins. Plus they haven't had a noticeable gap in power.

You just said Marvel had it's own PC days though. Seems like you want to ignore older feats and stories to me just because DC did

No, then you got something wrong. It seems that the "new" Marvel comics are not on the powerlevel of the classic comics. They look better these days and the feats don't seem so cartoonish. I jnever said you should ignore them. I just don't know how powerful the reborn Asgardians are compared to their classic days. That's all. 🙂

Sr J-Bieb Dead

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No, then you got something wrong. It seems that the "new" Marvel comics are not on the powerlevel of the classic comics. They look better these days and the feats don't seem so cartoonish. I jnever said you should ignore them. I just don't know how powerful the reborn Asgardians are compared to their classic days. That's all. 🙂
Considering Hulk just punched a huge machine and two hundred foot tall characters into space...
Considering characters like Galactus and Surfer have way better and more consistent feats too. Hell, the first thing Odin did when he came back was create a small army of giants able to take on the Red Odins. Then you have Skyfathers having universal ramifications, and Thor hurting a 'multiversal' being who supposedly did what Anti-Monitor did. There's plenty of cheese, but there's also a better understanding of how things work as well.

Just because writers understand how the universe works nowadays (or more than they did) that doesn't mean power levels change. If they seem less powerful, then you haven't been reading the right comics.

"I never said that, but I said that Marvel had its own PC days"

Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
"I never said that, but I said that Marvel had its own PC days"

I'm not sure if Odin is on the same level as he was during the Silver Age (it seems Marvel has its own PC days). That's why I said I want to see the fight against Galactus first. But I know it's hard to understand.

bored

wildernesss Senior Member

some of odin's feats strongly imply fighting guys like thanos should be like riding a gravy train with biscuit wheels. problem is, thanos performed well against odin regardless of that.

what about odin's rock bottom low showings? he was defeated by an army of ants....from outer space. these ant people managed to defeat asgard. and how did they manage to keep odin weakened while imprisoned?........they fed him gruel. Fail.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss
Originally posted by wildernesss
what about odin's rock bottom low showings? he was defeated by an army of ants....from outer space. these ant people managed to defeat asgard. and how did they manage to keep odin weakened while imprisoned?........they fed him gruel. Fail.

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Sr J-Bieb Dead

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I'm not sure if Odin is on the same level as he was during the Silver Age (it seems Marvel has its own PC days). That's why I said I want to see the fight against Galactus first. But I know it's hard to understand.

bored

Not hard at all to understand. You don't read comics, I get it, but that doesn't mean that Odin is a subject of "PC days" (considering Odin's best feat by far comes from 1996).

It's like Odin hasn't been killed and brought back before...

Either way, Odin from any era wins here

Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Not hard at all to understand. You don't read comics, I get it, but that doesn't mean that Odin is a subject of "PC days" (considering Odin's best feat by far comes from 1996).

It's like Odin hasn't been killed and brought back before...

Either way, Odin from any era wins here

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Anything else would be a waste of time.

Sr J-Bieb Dead

Concession accepted

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Personally I hope that Odin wins. Though when he does it will be with a plot device.

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Actually they had their little crisis, and the Asgardians are reborn or "new" versions of their former selfs. And I never said they don't count, I just want to know if the reborn Asgardians are on the same level.

Finally others have pieced together you haven't a real grasp on the characters you debate since bran pointed out in 1996 Odin had his best power feat in the seth story which I'm sure you're entirely unaware of.

Prep-Man Senior Member

Odin.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by wildernesss
some of odin's feats strongly imply fighting guys like thanos should be like riding a gravy train with biscuit wheels. problem is, thanos performed well against odin regardless of that.
All Thanos did after getting slapped around Asgard was just make Odin more annoyed. Surviving Odin and being saved by Sif is, relatively speaking, a good feat. It's not a bad feat on Odin's part. At all.
Originally posted by wildernesss
what about odin's rock bottom low showings? he was defeated by an army of ants....from outer space. these ant people managed to defeat asgard. and how did they manage to keep odin weakened while imprisoned?........they fed him gruel. Fail.
We call things like that PIS.