Apple Products

Continuing the discussion on Apple, that seems to have been killed with Whirly (which I think must have been an accident as it seems perfectly appropriate):

For newcomers, it's about the appeal of Apple Products and their pros and cons.

Bardock42
I am extremely happy with my iPod Touch, having it with me pretty much ensures I won't get bored. Whether listening to music, reading a book or playing a game all work great on it.

I get your point though, getting an iPhone or a high end android is not really getting a phone, but getting a whole entertainment platform, that more or less is able to take calls, often sacrificing the reliability of that essential capability.

My experience with Mac OS X is very limited, but also very frustrating, I don't think I'd ever choose it as my primary system of use, while I feel like I could use certain Windows versions and certain Linux distributions exclusively and be very happy with them.

I don't like the mice or the OS and I don't have much use for a portable music player.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't like the mice or the OS and I don't have much use for a portable music player.

How come? Deaf?

i don't think I've used the most recent osx platform, but I never found it really intuitive for things beyond really just basic use. I can imagine that might have changed now, especially considering how little of the hardware is proprietary.

Originally posted by Bardock42
How come? Deaf?

Either I'm at home (use the computer), in the car (use the radio), or out doing something (in which case I usually have no use for music).

blasphemy

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Either I'm at home (use the computer), in the car (use the radio), or out doing something (in which case I usually have no use for music).

Well, you could drown her out with either of the devices he mentioned.

tub of water works well imho

Originally posted by StyleTime
Well, you could drown her out with either of the devices he mentioned.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
You can't drown out a woman with speakers without blowing up the speakers.

But you can knock her out.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Either I'm at home (use the computer), in the car (use the radio), or out doing something (in which case I usually have no use for music).

As for not getting bored: either I'll meditate (either walking or sitting), or I'll play with my absolutley-Incredible-I-can't-believe-it-does-all-this-crap Droid.

Pros- Quality hardware, ease of use, better security, built in recording and video editing software, better stability.
Cons- Formatting, WMA files, Less left-hand friendly.

I owned an iPhone before, while great, it wasn't something I miss right now. The OS is way too basic, and not customizable. As for the laptops, and desktops, well they're more useful, I use one at work, and love it very much.

But for my everyday use for entertainment away from my computer or Galaxy Tab, I prefer my SGS2, it's wonderful.

Originally posted by inimalist
tub of water works well imho

hot or cold?

It'll become obsolete in 2 years, you know.

I've become an Apple user for a very pragmatic reason: I needed a computer for university, and I wanted it to be powerful, yet have good battery life. I didn't want to have 2 machines for different purposes. The 2010 13 inch MacBook Pro seemed like the perfect choice: Just 2 kilograms of weight, a maximum of 10hrs battery life (in reality, I did manage to work for 8:30, awesome enough), but a 2.4GHz Core 2 and a very powerful NVidia IGP (the 320M, exclusively for MacBooks). Of course, the aluminium unibody is rigid like no other machine.
My idea was to use OSX on the go to benefit from the great power management and to use Windows at home (natively via Bootcamp).
Now that I've been using it for 10 months, I have to admit I nearly never use Windows any more. Snow Leopard works great and much better in so many conditions (for example, WPA2-TTLS Wi-Fi networks), and it's practically immune to exploits on the internet. The scrolling via the huge, awesome multi-touch trackpad works like nothing I've used (inertial scrolling -> a fluent movement) and the other multi-touch gestures help a lot, and there are so many simple hotkeys to make your life easier... In short: Once you've gotten used to it, it's much faster and easier to work on OSX.
The downside is to have problems finding appropriate apps for everything you'd do on Windows, but this has gotten a lot better in the past years for Mac users.
The only thing I really use Windows for now is, obviously, gaming - the performance is vast for a 13 inch laptop, I can play nearly any 2010 game in native 1280x800 res at medium detail levels.

Oh, as for the iPhone, I just love the OS and I use a lot of those apps. The only other choice for me would have been Android. And I really only have the iPhone 4 because I got it really cheap from a friend who wanted to sell his. Again, the quality is outstanding.
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If you ask me, a lot of their products are overpriced. I don't see why they would charge people 600 extra for a 2" display size gain. And I don't understand why people buy their monitors for 1000€ when there are Dells using the same panel at half the price.
The basic products, however (13 inch MacBooks), really do have a good value for the money. 13 inch laptops are usually rather expensive, and especially full power subnotebooks with good battery life and material quality. I would always go for a good value, but I'm willing to pay extra for quality and usability.

Well, I never bought an Apple Notebook but the premium on it does seem ridiculous. You can definitely have a decent laptop at around 500€ running Windows or Linux. What does seem true though is that Apple is a master of battery life, which is something I never really needed in my usage, but if I go by reviews and manufacturer claims there are other options for that. Ultimately I'm sure there's reasons for and against buying an Apple laptop, and you'll have to do what you are personally comfortable with.

Originally posted by eezy45
I've become an Apple user for a very pragmatic reason: I needed a computer for university, and I wanted it to be powerful, yet have good battery life. I didn't want to have 2 machines for different purposes. The 2010 13 inch MacBook Pro seemed like the perfect choice: Just 2 kilograms of weight, a maximum of 10hrs battery life (in reality, I did manage to work for 8:30, awesome enough), but a 2.4GHz Core 2 and a very powerful NVidia IGP (the 320M, exclusively for MacBooks). Of course, the aluminium unibody is rigid like no other machine.
My idea was to use OSX on the go to benefit from the great power management and to use Windows at home (natively via Bootcamp).
Now that I've been using it for 10 months, I have to admit I nearly never use Windows any more. Snow Leopard works great and much better in so many conditions (for example, WPA2-TTLS Wi-Fi networks), and it's practically immune to exploits on the internet. The scrolling via the huge, awesome multi-touch trackpad works like nothing I've used (inertial scrolling -> a fluent movement) and the other multi-touch gestures help a lot, and there are so many simple hotkeys to make your life easier... In short: Once you've gotten used to it, it's much faster and easier to work on OSX.
The downside is to have problems finding appropriate apps for everything you'd do on Windows, but this has gotten a lot better in the past years for Mac users.
The only thing I really use Windows for now is, obviously, gaming - the performance is vast for a 13 inch laptop, I can play nearly any 2010 game in native 1280x800 res at medium detail levels.

Oh, as for the iPhone, I just love the OS and I use a lot of those apps. The only other choice for me would have been Android. And I really only have the iPhone 4 because I got it really cheap from a friend who wanted to sell his. Again, the quality is outstanding.
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The aluminum unibody is one of the things I love about the Apple notebooks.

My HP, while quite beastly, is plastic and flimsy. One false move and it feels like it will snap. 😐