Apple Products

My input devices are perfect, and my screen manages some 280cd/m2. The 2010 13 inch Pro model doesn't have ANY major flaw. I'd never pay 1100 bucks otherwise. But find me a really good 13 inch notebook at 800€ or lower. There are none with these qualities. And if there are some that manage 80% of this, they usually come without optical devices.
Actually, with student options and a special refund campaign, I only paid 920€ instead of 1149. Totally worth the money.

And it's absolutely true that it depends on your needs. I've started using Logic Studio (being a musician) and I love it. If I had to choose a laptop now, I actually wouldn't buy a MacBook Pro (new generation sucks), but probably something like an Acer TimelineX (yeah, no optical drive), and run Ubuntu.

Thanks for clearing that up.

My family has had every iteration of iphone. I owned the 3g and 4.
My brother owns an android and so does a friend of my..

Honestly when I got the Iphone 4.. i felt hindered all the time. very very frustrated with the purchase as if something was missing. When I finally jailbroke the darn thing, installed cydia... i figured out what it was... functionality!!

just as an fyi though... my desktop is an emachine.. and my laptop is an asus...

and as an lol. my brothers wife "hated" her iphone 4... sold it.. used my brothers upgrade to get an android... was so disappointed by battery life... asked to use my upgrade to go back to an iphone 4...

i told her no. i'm waiting to see whats coming out this year. 😄

If you have an Iphone 4... you have to install springboard... and get springflash.. just for the flashlight app alone! ugh. and the ability to quickly turn on/off your wifi/3g/2g/bluetooth/gps attenna from anywhere is a battery lifesaver. i was so annoyed going into settings.. then etc etc etc.. for each individual thing!!!

other than springflash the only thing I really care about is mxtube for downloading youtube videos. I've found that when watching youtube on ANY phone, there is so much jitter i get annoyed. So with mxtube (i'm sure android probably has an equivalnet) i download the video... and its downloading in the background.. whenever its done i watch it jitter free. ahhhhhh...

Originally posted by rotiart
If you have an Iphone 4... you have to install springboard... and get springflash.. just for the flashlight app alone! ugh. and the ability to quickly turn on/off your wifi/3g/2g/bluetooth/gps attenna from anywhere is a battery lifesaver. i was so annoyed going into settings..

Bullsh*. There are millions of flashlight apps in the app store available for free, some including strobe effects etc.
Also, ever used double tap? You can access settings from inside any app, turn off/on whatever you want, double tap again and go back. You sound like you're still on iPhone OS 3.x ...

I like APPLE Iphone...its really a good product by apple.

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apple- extremely overpriced, underpowered hardware, CRAPPY but reliable OS, well crafted/reliable/high quality batteries/construction/screens.

My opinion of Apple products:
They're overpriced PoS.

Why the need to pay a premium for their products, when there are other alternatives that are comparable (or better) than theirs for half the price?

I have a Mac and 2 PCs (PC mainly for gaming, Linux as server), as well as an iPod (probably 1st or 2nd gen).
Mac OS X is only good for video/music editing.
If you aren't into photography or film-making or don't need all of that eye-candy, Windows or Linux is more than sufficient to fit all of your needs. And they're a lot cheaper too.

Hardware... you can buy heavy-duty housings for the PC.
The total expense will still be less than buying a brand new Mac.

In the end, the decision's still up to you (as they would always say).
But if you have enough money to invest for Apple products, why settle for something inferior when you can buy the best for less?

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Mac OS X is only good for video/music editing.

whats so great about it for music?

Originally posted by inimalist
whats so great about it for music?

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
iTunes.

ummm, I mean music editing

I write electronic music on PC, I'm interested in why you think it is easier or better on Macs

EDIT: itunes is a shit program anyways

Originally posted by inimalist
ummm, I mean music editing

I write electronic music on PC, I'm interested in why you think it is easier or better on Macs

EDIT: itunes is a shit program anyways

To be honest with you, I agree.
I was just being generous as to not start a flame war from Apple fans in this forum.

Audacity is a lot better than iTunes.

What pisses me off lately is that Microsoft is trying to revitalize it's dying Zune platform by attracting exclusive content like podcasts. You can download iTunes for Windows but you can't download Zune on a Mac.
It sucks and for all the new customers it's going to give them (like anyone is gonna buy a PC or and XBOX 360 just to listen to Bryan Johnson and Walt Flanegan) they may as well start releasing content exclusive to the MSX or Commodore 64.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
To be honest with you, I agree.
I was just being generous as to not start a flame war from Apple fans in this forum.

Audacity is a lot better than iTunes.

lol, and cool edit or sound forge are better than audacity, but neither are really at the level of music or sound editing that I'm talking about

my question is more with regard to those apple fans, as "music" is something that, for some reason, apple people seem to think is better on mac products

like, I use reason, FLstudio, buzztracker, I have access to Cubase or protools, I have a fairly expensive external sound card for recording and encoding... I'm trying to figure out what it is that I'm missing... because afaik, I would destroy a mac in terms of what my sound stuff can do...

Originally posted by inimalist

like, I use reason, FLstudio, buzztracker, I have access to Cubase or protools, I have a fairly expensive external sound card for recording and encoding... I'm trying to figure out what it is that I'm missing... because afaik, I would destroy a mac in terms of what my sound stuff can do...

Lol. You definitely would.

Those software are definitely better than Audacity.
But I'm an open source advocate.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
But I'm an open source advocate.

buzz tracker my friend XD

ableton has some add-ons that allow you to actually build and design synths in the program (man, I need to learn Ableton....)

and there are always VSTs XD XD XD

Whats better about Mac for music production? Ask any major producer! The answer is Logic Studio. Audacity is a piece of shit compared.
Cubase does the trick but Logic is much crisper and easier to mix. The results are brilliant.

Originally posted by eezy45
Whats better about Mac for music production? Ask any major producer! The answer is Logic Studio. Audacity is a piece of shit compared.
Cubase does the trick but Logic is much crisper and easier to mix. The results are brilliant.

what makes Logic superior to anything available on PCs?

EDIT: the best thing I can find is that they brag about packaging it with lots of premade instrument loops... so what? it is better for cut and paste music production? lulz. Reason has the same effects, Ableton allows you to create your own synths, FLstudio has a far more intuitive drum input system, Soundforge or Cooledit seem to have all the same wav editing functions, and if you can get over the lack of a fancy graphical interface, BuzzTracker eats it for lunch. Like all apple products, it seems like its only real attracting quality is that it looks flashy

if the advantage is that it is all put together in the same program, well, thats hardly an advantage... you know, jack of all trades versus finding the most applicable program for what you want to do

Originally posted by inimalist
buzz tracker my friend XD

ableton has some add-ons that allow you to actually build and design synths in the program (man, I need to learn Ableton....)

and there are always VSTs XD XD XD

jeskola buzz? i'll try it out and see for myself.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
jeskola buzz? i'll try it out and see for myself.

the learning curve is pretty steep, and tbh, I don't know how to program stuff, so I don't know a lot about it

all I know is that there is a really vibrant community that are constantly releasing new effects and synths all the time

Pros: There's a glowing apple on it.

Cons: You could have gotten a much better machine for about half the price you paid for that glowing apple.