Odin VS Galactus

Originally posted by Wodenson
Odin has a gigantic pool of power he taps into, called the Odin-Force. Thanos has no such reserve unless he taps an external source (e.g. an energy source on his ship).

Unless he was drawing more power from this source as the battle continued -- pushing his resources to their limits as Odin raised his gain.

He slowly struggled his way through, actively employing his power to counteract Odin's blast. He didn't stand there and impassively take a hit.

Nope, but Odin said that it was scientifically acquired. In other words, technology.

This is the ranting and raving of someone who has just had his bubble burst.

Please then.. post some on panel evidence that Thanos was using his never mentioned resource of power more as the fight goes on.. please post ANY proof of this or concede that it's total conjecture on your part.

Scientifically enhanced.. you have and do know how Thanos is right? I'm starting to think you have no clue who he is.... Eternals have been said to have nearly limitless reserves of power before not in just that instance. Like Odin... Thanos as an eternal also has power reserves to draw upon AS ODIN STATED ON PANEL. On the scientifically enhanced part.. I again think you have no clue about the character you are talking about.. you do know Thanos ENHANCED HIMSELF through scientific means... he made himself bigger and stronger to name two through science to manipulate his body. Those enhancements have been in play since very early on in his career. Those enhancements even came before Death upgraded him. Point being, those are nothing to do with the reserves or some made up ship or other device enhancing Thanos. That only had to do with scientific Thanos did to himself through science pretty much since his introduction... Next... Keep on trying buddy and I'll keep shooting them down.

^ Point of that?

that handbooks are faulty i'd guess

Originally posted by Wodenson
Probably correct. Thanos clearly stepped up his game against Odin, compared to when he was getting bloodied by Thor.

Originally posted by vince_slice
It's funny how people are so adamant on proving that their [b]subjective view of the art is true, and anybody that doesn't see it their way is biased. Very ironic.

It's like arguing that a cloud looks like a rabbit (i.e., the art depicts a shield). When someone else looks at the cloud and doesn't see the rabbit (i.e., doesn't see the shield), you claim they're biased and anti-rabbit (i.e., biased and closed-minded fan boys).

There's no doubt Thanos used a shield against PG Thor, Champion, and Galactus, and nobody would argue otherwise.

But the fact that there's still a lot of people unconvinced that there's a shield in the Odin fight is evidence of how ambiguous the art is and how many people can interpret it different ways. Bashing people for having their own interpretation of something subjective is immature. [/B]

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Point of that?

got me......

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Point of that?

Thanos used genetic engineering, tech, and who knows what else to enhance himself. That's what Odin could have been referring to : "Scientifically acquired might", it didn't necessarily mean he was amping from some outside source.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Please then.. post some on panel evidence that Thanos was using his never mentioned resource of power more as the fight goes on.. please post ANY proof of this or concede that it's total conjecture on your part.

It doesn't need to be spelled out. Odin alleged that Thanos was tapping into a source of power, but only stated that it was dark and scientific in nature. Walker did the same, but he identified it as coming from Thanos' ship.

you do know Thanos ENHANCED HIMSELF through scientific means... he made himself bigger and stronger to name two through science to manipulate his body. Those enhancements have been in play since very early on in his career.

Thanos no longer has bionic amplifications. This was a point of fact when the Silver Surfer accidentally slew Nebula's bodyguard who had been surgically altered to resemble Thanos. They looked at his body, saw the scientific amplifications, and realized it wasn't him -- because Thanos didn't need them.

So what was the 'scientifically acquired might' that Odin sensed?

It's also a point of fact that Thanos could tap into his technology at will, since he called upon it to imprison Odin within a block of force.

Originally posted by Wodenson
It doesn't need to be spelled out. Odin alleged that Thanos was tapping into a source of power, but only stated that it was dark and scientific in nature. Walker did the same, but he identified it as coming from Thanos' ship.

Thanos no longer has bionic amplifications. This was a point of fact when the Silver Surfer accidentally slew Nebula's bodyguard who had been surgically altered to resemble Thanos. They looked at his body, saw the scientific amplifications, and realized it wasn't him -- because Thanos didn't need them.

So what was the 'scientifically acquired might' that Odin sensed?

Another cnocession... there is absolutly NO PROOF WHAT SO EVER that Thanos was tapping into "more" of this unnamed power source as the fight went on? Concession accepted on that part

Next did you even read that story... that had NOTHING to do with Thanos's implants that have been o nhis person since the character was first introduced. For God's sake the bio posted above says exactly that. Furthermore... that is what Odin was talking about OR it was about the Tech Thanos carries on him... afterall since you believe he used shields.. there ya go.. force block.. there ya go... Thanos demonstrated one tech based power for sure and two depending on if you believe it was shields. That falls PERFECTLY in line with what Odin was referring to with science/tech... not some source or power he was siphoning from that was never mentioned nor seen. You need to learn how to comprehend the basic english language and use learn about characters before you debate about them.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Next did you even read that story... that had NOTHING to do with Thanos's implants that have been o nhis person since the character was first introduced. For God's sake the bio posted above says exactly that.

The bio also says he no longer has implants, and the scan I produced suggests that as well.

Furthermore... that is what Odin was talking about OR it was about the Tech Thanos carries on him...

So Thanos carries around a portable reserve of energy? Keep in mind that it was energy that they were talking about, not technology. Thanos clearly said "energy is energy regardless of the source" in response to Odin's comment about science. So he wasn't talking about a piece of equipment or bioenhancements.

That falls PERFECTLY in line with what Odin was referring to with science/tech... not some source or power he was siphoning from that was never mentioned nor seen.

Of course, this is pure conjecture on your part. You are grasping for an explanation that doesn't overly diminish Thanos. You're almost willing to concede that Thanos was using shields to salvage his battle with Odin.

Also, Walker mentioned it. It matches up perfectly.

Check.

Originally posted by Wodenson
The bio also says he no longer has implants, and the scan I produced suggests that as well.

So Thanos carries around a portable reserve of energy? Keep in mind that it was energy that they were talking about, not technology. Thanos clearly said "energy is energy regardless of the source" in response to Odin's comment about science. So he wasn't talking about a piece of equipment or bioenhancements.

Of course, this is pure conjecture on your part. You are grasping for an explanation that doesn't overly diminish Thanos. You're almost willing to concede that Thanos was using shields to salvage his battle with Odin.

Also, Walker mentioned it. It matches up perfectly.

Check.

You don't wanna talk about check or conjecture as I've been forcing your concessions page after page.

You first said.... Thanos can't stand up to a blast from Thanos without shields... I then point out that he could and did walk right through an even MORE POWERFUL blast. You conceded but tried to through out more conjecture and said.. Well Thanos could've been tapping more into power source at all time. I called for ANY narration or proof of such a thing... you didn't even respond. Those are two checks and concessions in as many pages.

Next, we're talking about power reserves... Odin calls his DARK and nearly limitless.. I say the meaning of that is quite clear... The dark is in reference to his dark nature i.e. affiliating with Death...portrayed as sinister and evil many a time... death's upgrade.. and his study of mystical black magic... Limitless.. is clearly is relation to Thanos's own power reserves.. him calling on more power is him increasing his blasting power just as Odin has and done countless times... amping his fist.. We've NEVER seen Thanos tire or run out of energy at any point in his history.. hence the limitless.. etc etc. Those are all things that fit perfectly with the character and what's we've seen. Your theory... he was drawing from his ship... Interesting... how can a ship be dark? It can't be.. CHECK.. How can a ship be limitless.. It can't be.. MATE. My explanation fit PERFECTLY with the character.. yours are well.. conjecture and speculation that border on the retard.

Those are all Odin was talking about when discussing the reserves... so I've already checkmated that. Next... we go to his comment on the orgin and nature of their power... a seperate subject...Odin comments on his being divine.. and Thanos comes from tech.. Again this fits perfectly with what the character has shown Odin and shown throughout his history... He builds sh111t all the time... armadas.. devices etc etc.. He had bio implants to increase his power (hmmm sounds right eh) ooo I'm not done... he showed odin a power (force block) which was a tech device... so not only does his history show he's gained his power and might from tech but he showed odin a power gotten from Tech. Lastly, since you are adament that it was a shield... that is TWO things he showed Odin that were tech... Those things again like the above fit perfectly in line with his history and what he showed Odin.

Your theory... umm Odin was saying he was drawing power from his ship.. and tapping into more power as the fight went on depending on what was happening. Said power is Dark.. can tech reserves be dark.. buzz try again.. can it be limitless.. buzz try again.. was it ever mentioned or shown he was drawing or siphoning any power.. buzz wrong again.. That is Check and Mate. Thanks for playing.

Wodenson the scan you posted of Eros "proving" doesnt need implants is wrong as Eros was shown to be wrong about many things regarding Thanos. And how the hell is Eros supoosed to know what Thanos has done to himself in the past.

And as you like to use bios, in the latest Thanos Imperative hanbook by Nova/Worldmind it states he has enhanced himself.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Next, we're talking about power reserves... Odin calls his DARK and nearly limitless.. I say the meaning of that is quite clear...

Conjecture.

seen Thanos tire or run out of energy at any point in his history.. hence the limitless.. etc etc.

Most villains aren't shown to run out of energy. Nothing special about that.

Your theory... he was drawing from his ship... Interesting... how can a ship be dark? It can't be.. CHECK..

I didn't say his ship, I said a power source on his ship. Or rather, Walker did. You agree that he did so against Walker, right?

My explanation fit PERFECTLY with the character..

My explanation fits perflectly with what both Walker and Odin said, that Thanos was tapping into an additional energy source.

Odin comments on his being divine.. and Thanos comes from tech..

No doubt, but they were commenting on energy. Thanos is a natural energy caster due to do his Eternal heritage (not technology), so the scientifically generated energy was something else.

Lastly, since you are adament that it was a shield... that is TWO things he showed Odin that were tech...

You finally concede that Thanos was using a shield... and all I used was 'conjecture'.

So, we all agree that Galactus wins, right?

57:5

Pretty much.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
So, we all agree that Galactus wins, right?

Nay!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
So, we all agree that Galactus wins, right?

i think most are assuming a certain level of galactus wins, yes.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
So, we all agree that Galactus wins, right?

even the ones who say otherwise

zopzop even pm'd me that odin loses