Odin VS Galactus

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You can be sure based on the comics you've read. I've read enough comics on my own to come to the exact opposite conclusion. If you really think Odin meant this: "Galactus seeks to become immortal . He seeks to become a god like one of us." We'll have to agree to disagree.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

So the only inconsistency you see beyween Fraction and Hickman is that Odin was trying to belittle Galactus' status? Because if I read it correctly, I don't see why the World Seed can't be [b](i) a mistake by Eternity (Hickman), (ii) responsible for Big Bangs (Fraction), (iii) responsible for new iterations of Galactus (both Hickman and Fraction), and (iv) provide Galactus with an avenue to supercede his status/fate (Fraction). [/B]

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Saying "Galactus seeks to become a god" in the same context as I explained in my previous post , is basically just the same as "He seeks to become just like us" . And yeah you're right , we'll just have to agree to disagree here .

Yup . Although , if it only created the 9 realms , it couldn't possibly be responsible for the continuous big bangs .

I do not see how the World Seed being responsible for Big Bangs precludes it from being planted by Bor and sprouting a World Tree within a universe. It could have, and was largely hinted at doing both.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
ODG does have a point about the label "god", though.

Asgardians have called Celestials gods as well as Galactus himself one.

As far as I know , it was the Eternal who referred the Celestials as "Space Gods" . Odin did call Arishem "mighty one" , but that's about it . And as far as Galactus is concerned , Thor did mention on more than one occasion that his(Galactus'😉 might rivaled Odin's , but I doubt that any Asgardian ever expressly referred to him(Galactus) as a "god" .

If they did , I would like to see scans , or at least refer me to the comic issue numbers .

My biggest question is how the hell did Odin get 17 votes in poll? Any guesses as to who actually voted for Odin? I think that maybe the more interesting debate.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
My biggest question is how the hell did Odin get 17 votes in poll? Any guesses as to who actually voted for Odin? I think that maybe the more interesting debate.

IIRC, this thread was made before the recent Fraction confrontation or at least had been merged with previous threads which were made before those issues. And going by feats, before that fight, you could make the argument for Odin.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Due to the subjectivity of the term, "god," and how loaded a term it is, you've chosen a very narrow interpretation that is neither supported by the context nor the actions of the characters involved. Odin definitely did not treat the threat of Galactus as a being whose stature or power were below his. He insulted him mightily but it was in the same vein as against the Watcher. More petulant/arrogant than condescending/belittling.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

I do not see how the World Seed being responsible for Big Bangs precludes it from being planted by Bor and sprouting a World Tree within a universe. It could have, and was largely hinted at doing both.

I believe Odin would give Galactus hell, but going by implie power and feats Galactus would win, he can do what Odin can do but better on a cosmic scale.

Originally posted by the Darkone
I believe Odin would give Galactus hell, but going by implie power and feats Galactus would win, he can do what Odin can do but better on a cosmic scale.

Um , did you read Mighty Thor #1-6 ?

Or any decent comic with Galactus actually, like that one in which he trashes Celestials.

65 pages? WOW. I think Galactus wins.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Um , did you read Mighty Thor #1-6 ?

I did whats your point, it still doesn't change the fact that Galactus is above Odin?!

Mighty Thor 1-6 wanst really thought thru story arch IMO, Galactus fluctuate between writers, written to the way he suppose to be he would beat Odin down.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Actually no . He definitely didn't see Galactus as being below in power . However , stature wise , that's debatable . Also , Galactus is considered a sibling and an equal by 2 abstract beings : Eternity and Death . If Odin's usage of the term "god" covered the nature of being an Abstract as well , why would he claim that "Galactus wants to become a god" in the first place ? And you yourself admit that he was arrogant , so tell me how does being arrogant prevent him from belittling his opponents' station ? As you said before , and I agreed to it , lets just agree to disagree . We can keep on going back and forth on this topic , and it'll get us nowhere .

If it ONLY created the nine realms , then it couldn't possibly be responsible for the big bang cycles .

Nothing Fraction wrote suggested that the World Seed's creation actions were limited to only creating the Nine Realms. We only know that the World Seed, when planted by Bor, created the Nine Realms. Before then, it could have created the 616 universe and be lost for eons in the dimensional rift, until Bor eventually chanced upon it.

I could have sworn that either Thor or Odin has referred to Celestials as the gods of the gods.

I'm pretty sure that Odin's context didn't mean that Galactus wished to become like an Asgardian, I think it's clear he meant that Galactus sought to outlive his station/design (as Galactus is meant to die and be replaced in each universal death/rebirth process via the Seed, and by consuming the Seed Galactus would be able to override that cycle and exist forever, theoretically like God, not as a god).

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I could have sworn that either Thor or Odin has referred to Celestials as the gods of the gods.

Not surprising coming from an Asgardian.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I could have sworn that either Thor or Odin has referred to Celestials as the gods of the gods.

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Originally posted by MF DELPH
I'm pretty sure that Odin's context didn't mean that Galactus wished to become like an Asgardian, I think it's clear he meant that Galactus sought to outlive his station/design (as Galactus is meant to die and be replaced in each universal death/rebirth process via the Seed, and by consuming the Seed Galactus would be able to override that cycle and exist forever, theoretically like [b]God, not as a god). [/B]

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Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
My biggest question is how the hell did Odin get 17 votes in poll? Any guesses as to who actually voted for Odin? I think that maybe the more interesting debate.

Alavaro's Thor board might account for the 17. Some ****s over there actually believe Thor >> Galactus.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
I'm pretty sure that Odin's context didn't mean that Galactus wished to become like an Asgardian, I think it's clear he meant that Galactus sought to outlive his station/design (as Galactus is meant to die and be replaced in each universal death/rebirth process via the Seed, and by consuming the Seed Galactus would be able to override that cycle and exist forever, theoretically like [b]God, not as a god). [/B]

Hickman's Galactus showed Odin was outright lying about Galactus' motivations regarding the seed.

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
Hickman's Galactus showed Odin was outright lying about Galactus' motivations regarding the seed.

Bagay sa iyo ang username mo 😂

Galactus stated that it will replace his station but would lack restraint.If anything, hickman only cleared up what the Galactus seed is.Its an aberration.And aberrations sometimes happens.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
As JakeTheBank suggested, Odin's usage of the term, "god," has probably covered beings beyond his own stature. In addition to the Celestials, I'm pretty positive The Ones Who Sit Above in Shadow were also referred to as gods.

Nothing Fraction wrote suggested that the World Seed's creation actions were limited to only creating the Nine Realms. We only know that the World Seed, when planted by Bor, created the Nine Realms. Before then, it could have created the 616 universe and be lost for eons in the dimensional rift, until Bor eventually chanced upon it.

Well , who knows . At this point though , its clear that Galactus > Asgardians . All of them .

Also , as I said before , I would like to see scans in which Asgardians , or any Earth god(s) for that matter refer to Galactus or Celestials as "gods" . Either that or refer me to the isssue no. in which said incident took place .