Straw Hat Pirates vs Akatsuki

Started by Nephthys3 pages

Luffy can.

Robin can.

According to Oda DF users need to be at least past the knees in water to be affected. Thats why Luffy could walk around Hancocks bath without any ill effects. Robin should be able to use her powers therefore.

And she can't block it without getting burnt, nor does she have infinate paper. Eventualy she becomes a non-issue.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Current Madara solos.

How could they possibly defeat him?

Madara isn't invincible. Danzo's bodygaurds got an arm from him. Plus I don't think he has teh new Paths of Pain here. 8 vs 19? A little unfair.

Even if they hurt him, he can reduce it to illusion w/ izanagi. Meanwhile, Izanagi can be used to make his own attacks connect without fail; he will just soul rip every one of them, soloing the team.

Um, its never been used like that.

And he only has Izanagi once.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v51/c479/2.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v51/c479/3.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v51/c479/12.html

Has too. Danzo made his own attacks connect at the same time he was making Sasuke's illusions.

It says they're 'made a reality', not that they're a guaranteed hit.

Plus, again, only once.

Why would he need a gauranteed hit on an unmoving target? And if it was a guaranteed hit, it would hit Sasuke, not Susanoo.

Obviously, it still operates through physical means... it won't just phase through targets. But it alters reality in such a way that his attacks connect. When Madara has multiple guaranteed 1-hit-kills, this spells a bad combo. All he needs to do is touch someone to soul rip or BFR. You're trying to tell me that with his space-time and reality manipulation, he won't even be able to touch them? Please.

His sharingan Izanagi lasts for 5 minutes... that long of an activation is more than enough. We also don't know how it will interact w/ the rinnegan but I strongly believe that the rinnegan is not extinguished by Izanagi use.

But he needs to turn it off to be able to attack. He can't use it to block all attacks against him and make all his attacks hit for 5 minutes straight or he would have taken out Konan a few seconds into her mass explosion attack. You're assigning him powers and abilities beyond anything he's actually done.

If he could use Izanami without losing an eye he could solo the war. He wouldn't need soldiers or anything. Forget the 6 Paths, he would be invincible.

Why would he need to turn it off to attack? Danzo didn't. In fact, it being on aided his ability to attack. Attacks work better while under Izanagi's influence. Madara needed to keep it defensive the whole 5 minutes because he was under continuous explosions and needed to wait for them to be used up. In this case, he can just use space-time to avoid whatever attacks they had.

I think he pretty much is invincible (that is, until kishi inevitably reveals some hitherto unknown weakness in his abilities).

danzou only deactivated it to conserve chackra

Afraid not. If The rest of the team leave Pein alone then he gets gangraped by the Strawhats. Luffy in particular punches his head off as soon as he's the only target.

Plus if Deidara starts spitting out a half dozen birds and flying away Ussop could take him out. YOu might call bullshit but Ussop has frightening range and accuracy and its not like Deidara is well known for his durability.

I don't call BS on his range or accuracy there at all, I'm with you, he could hit super-far shots ten times out of ten.

Deidara isn't known for his durability... but neither is Kakashi, and we've seen the kind of stuff Kakashi takes. Neji too. Ninja with no specific toughness techniques are far in excess of human durability.

Remember, Genin punch craters in stone and take said punches no problem too. I think the only attacks Usopp has that'd do more than annoy a ninja are his gas bomb and impact dial.

Usopp shoots them, and they're fine.

Also don't forget throwing weapons to knock attacks out of the air is trivial, even pre-timeskip Sakura and Naruto do it no prob. Good aim isn't enough of they're just intercepted.

Remember that the only people in Naruto who use ranged weapons as primary attacks rely massed spam of them, dozens of them per second. All other thrown weapons either use surprise or are just distractions.


No she didn't. http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v41/c371/15.html Unless she does it later in the fight with Pain she wasn't shown blocking it.

I will note how she's not burned there, just some paper floating around them, despite it being aimed right at her and as mentioned, enough to melt stone. In other words, it was blocked.

The anime shows it more, her cloud of paper and fireball hit.


She doesn't get her exploding tags here. All she has is her paper, which is pathetic.

Why wouldn't she have her normal tools? The insane quantity of her ultimate jutsu required specific prep, but she used them in other jutsu too.

Also, her paper is chakra-reinforced and equal in power to a shuriken made of metal (per the databook), and like all ninja shuriken, thrown by someone with super-strength or projected with similar force.

Likewise, the "wrap someone in paper and restrain" them thing holds ninja with superhuman strength, so holding Nami, Usopp, and Brook with them would be no big.

Without prep she has no chance. Nami avoided attacks from someone much quicker than her (Kalifa, Oars) and so has Ussop (Oars).

She's quicker than them, especially with her flight, and remember she does the "fill the entire space with paper shuriken so there is no-where to dodge too".

Seriously, why does "OP is faster than Naruto" keep coming up? Like in the Gamabunta and Oars discussion, it was claimed that Oars would blitz Gamabunta but when it actually came to observed travel speed, Gamabunta's done more in one leap that Oars did in an entire battle.

A high level Body flicker appears to be every bit as fast as OP speed moves, and Ninja battles regularly cover much more ground than OP ones. One Piece characters can run quite awhile to travel a distance that

Think about how long it took to cross Ennes Loby, Thriller Bark, or Marineford. Some of which was opposition, but much of the former was trivial to blow through.

It takes much less time for ninja to travel distances than it does One Piece characters.


It can't move as fast as the Strawhats.

Kisame can move the lake as fast as he can move, and he can move really fast in the water.

Remember when Kisame was escaping the turtle island, he travelled so fast it took Bee's boosted arm throwing Gai, plus a turtle jump, to catch up, all in a few handfuls of seconds.

And they ended up far enough off the island to make this explosion, and the shockwave of the blast to take significant time to reach them. That's some distance.

Hell, current Luffy could take him out in a single punch through the water, as would the rest of the big guns of the SHs.

If he wasn't submerged first and Kisame was close enough to the edge, yea Luffy could.


He regenerated from a potentially fatal wound. Theres nothing to suggest he can return from death.

A broken spine is not immediately fatal. It's a mortal wound that'll kill fast, but so is having a chunk of your torso removed.

nor does she have infinate paper. Eventualy she becomes a non-issue.

She has massive amounts, and she creates them with chakra, remember when she built herself back up from a torso.

Not infinite, she can get exhausted... but we have seen she has a ton of chakra and can make and control large amounts of paper.

Itachi flips them off and into an illusion they go. Hurhur.

I'm kidding of course but I don't know how well genjutsu would fair. Someone be willing to tell me? 😮

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Itachi flips them off and into an illusion they go. Hurhur.

I'm kidding of course but I don't know how well genjutsu would fair. Someone be willing to tell me? 😮

That was my joke.

Itachi's genjutsu? One-shots them all, at the same time. vin

Mine now. vin

Aha. Yet another classic example of me doing all the work, and you copying me. 313

~ I don't read OP, so every post of mine in this thread will be off-topic or intended BS.

I'm sorry. I'm afraid since you didn't copyright it, I copied no one. 131

Damn that's weird. I was originally going to say I copyrighted it, but then I chose that other comment. >__>

Mind-reader? No wonder you copy me all the time. 😛

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Damn that's weird. I was originally going to say I copyrighted it, but then I chose that other comment. >__>

Mind-reader? No wonder you copy me all the time. 😛

Ah, how we regret our decisions.

Nah.

Spoiler:
It's my sharingan.
vin