Smith vs. Anakin (Lord Vader)

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wrong. They do. In fact, it's the same as Earth's in every single way.

The only difference is: some "programs" can manipulate those laws in their favor.

Or did you miss that line from Morpheus? Yup, you sure did. 🙂

Not. "Some", he said, but what we SAW was pretty much everything.

Funny, that: you did it in the OTF.

Trollin' trollin' trollin'.

You did. The end. It's too late to edit your post. You tried to use other's agreeing with you to back yourself up in a rebuttal. Deal with it. 🙂

So a "nuh uhhhhh" reply?

K: that's what you're doing and your dodging again. What's funny: even IF Agent Smith doesn't do that, he still wins. Even IF Agent smith doesn't fly, he still wins. Even IF Agent Smith just stands there until Anakin swings at him with his lightsaber, he still wins. Keep digging your hole, though.

Lunacy!!!!! RAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGE!!!!!!

No, who are you subtly trolling, now? Robtard?

No it's not fail. That was his limit. Size DOES matter. Yoda is a fallible character. If size mattered not, why did he struggle against the senate pods when he was, arguably, in better shape? Why did it take so long to pick up the X-wing while concentrating like a mo-fo?

Yuh huuuuuh!

Nah, it's you ignoring Smith's feats.

Prove that with an actual scene, not more of your "ZOMG KMC LOOKIT HOW SMART I AM WITH MY OCD WHEEEEEHEEHEEEHEE!!!!"

Hilarious. Pwned that 'rebuttal' already.

Does Smith have he speed to create those giant shockwaves? Check.

Does he have the strength? Check.

Does he have the durability? Check.

Can Smith create giant shockwaves that would turn any meatbag into small tiny chunks of meat? Check.

This is the Matrix, dude. Not Houston, not Cleveland. Stop applying real world physics to a world where buildings ripple, people can fly, emo ghosts and magical doorways appear out of nowhere.

Oh yeah, and where a man can stick his hand in his lady and pull out a bullet.

That should be the end of the thread. Only bored people like you make it last longer. I'll be able to just copypasta my remaining replies to whatever bullshit you have left. 🙂

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Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
smith always has a pistol azz.
and i don't recall OP stating smith doesn't have his standard gear 😉

anakin has been punched before.
& tripped mid battle.

how exactly does his precog stop smith when it didn't even help him realise he was sidestepped & got tripped 😬

Fight takes place in the matrix.

Smith too ✅

Yes, it takes place in the Matrix, attaboy!!!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Of course we talked about you on the phone. The three of us are friends, dummy.

But hey, it's better than you pming him left and right about me 😉

And as I said, I'm flattered.

"left and right"? Delusions of grandeur.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The thread starter came in and said Smith does not have a pistol.

Smith too ✅

Yes, it takes place in the Matrix, attaboy!!!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Let's see...Buildings rippling, people flying, ghosts, magical doorways...but yeah, your shockwave theory holds up.

The building was real glass. I guess you didn't watch the making of, did you? It took the brothers quite a bit of money and tests to get the right glass to do that. thanks for playing. 🙂

The rest?

"some "programs" can manipulate those laws in their favor"

And, why thank you: it does. 🙂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Not. "Some", he said, but what we SAW was pretty much everything.

Yes, only some, not all. Very very few could bend the laws. Since you've just proven your knowledge (yet again) of the Matrix films to be quite lacking to even have a fundamental discussion of the films, you might want to just stop posting until you're a bit more educated.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I was merely saying I was not the only one when I was accused of being the only one. Problem?

"you tried to use the "power in numbers" tool, I called you on it, and now you're pretending that you don't need people to agree with you."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You have any idea how outrageous your shockwave theory is?

"Does Smith have he speed to create those giant shockwaves? Check.

Does he have the strength? Check.

Does he have the durability? Check.

Can Smith create giant shockwaves that would turn any meatbag into small tiny chunks of meat? Check."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
K, so I'll return the favor. The fight is in the Matrix, yeah? Weeeeeeeeeeeeell.....Anakin will be that much stronger, that much faster. Hell, he could probably force push an entire city block.

"If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Size matters. Strength? Not.

Wrong. A pile of rubble exerting 2 tons of force is no different than a strong person exerting 2 tons of force: it's still two tons of force that has to be overcome by the TK user.

Guess that kind of slipped your mind, huh?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nope, you're applying real world physics to the Matrix, FFS, and it doesn't fly.

"Wrong. They do. In fact, it's the same as Earth's in every single way.

The only difference is: some "programs" can manipulate those laws in their favor."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
"Smith is not gonna be cut by a lightsaber" haermm Prove that with an actual scene, not more of your "ZOMG KMC LOOKIT HOW SMART I AM WITH MY OCD WHEEEEEHEEHEEEHEE!!!!"

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd like to submit to the court the following fact:

Agent Smith is so incredibly durable that a lightsaber would just bounce off of his body.

An object that can survive a punch that causes a shockwave on scale of a nuclear weapon is so incredibly durable that you would have to hold a plasma blade on that object, for a lengthy period of time, to get it to slowly start cutting it (the heat excites the molecules to the point that it starts to break the bonds, very rapidly. On the macroscopic scale, this looks like "cutting". Apply this same blade to a material that is so extremely durable that it does not "destroy" even at forces far greater than any material can withstand during the shockwave of a nuclear weapon, we have a material that could easily deflect a plasma blade with little to no damage.)

Let us also mention that the heat caused from those punches that caused those shockwaves would cause extremely high amounts of heat...also furthering my point that his body simply cannot be cut with a glancing blow from a light-saber.

I can't even begin to imagine the amount of heat created by those massive punches.

You guys need a good example? How about the pistol shrimp? Little ****er creates heat in the water that is as hot as the surface of the sun. And what is the sun? Plasma. What is a lightsaber? A plasma blade. Are the heats of the two similar? Probably. It's more likely that the plasma blades/lightsabers are a couple of thousand degrees cooler than the surface of the sun.

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Conclusion: spite thread.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
This is the Matrix, dude. Not Houston, not Cleveland. Stop applying real world physics to a world where buildings ripple, people can fly, emo ghosts and magical doorways appear out of nowhere.

"The building was real glass. I guess you didn't watch the making of, did you? It took the brothers quite a bit of money and tests to get the right glass to do that. thanks for playing. 🙂

The rest?

"some "programs" can manipulate those laws in their favor"

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Oh yeah, and where a man can stick his hand in his lady and pull out a bullet.

"some "programs" can manipulate those laws in their favor"

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, see, deep down you know I'm right. Your OCD is preventing you from saying so.

"Only bored people like you make it last longer. I'll be able to just copypasta my remaining replies to whatever bullshit you have left"

Originally posted by dadudemon

"If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal."

Smith never showed TK resistance. Lightsabers were shown slicing through durasteel.

Until you show a clip of Smith resisting TK, or a clip proving his skin is harder than durasteel, you're done here. Until then, :

Nope. Two ways Smith can attack here:

1. Close the gap between he and Anakin, on foot, and attack CQC. If Smith does this, Anakin's precog will let him know far in advance where and Smith will be. Anakin wins via decap.

2. Smith goes to the air. Now, I have seen all the Matrix films, several times. In Reloaded, Neo takes off fast as hell at the beginning. He did so after kneeling and gathering his strength for a few seconds. This is more than enough time for Anakin to A: Force speed over and decap him, or B: Force grab, levitate, decap.

Itso facto, duder, Smith loses.

Now, as for the rest of your post:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001926/

Obsessive-compulsive disorder
Obsessive-compulsive neurosis; OCD

Last reviewed: February 11, 2010.

Obsessive-compulsive disorder is an anxiety disorder in which people have unwanted and repeated thoughts, feelings, ideas, sensations (obsessions), or behaviors that make them feel driven to do something (compulsions).

Often the person carries out the behaviors to get rid of the obsessive thoughts, but this only provides temporary relief. Not performing the obsessive rituals can cause great anxiety.

Get help.

Smith shows anakin a real gun & blows his ass away (no homo)

Originally posted by Robtard
And as I said, I'm flattered.

"left and right"? Delusions of grandeur.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lulz, you really went there, didncha? [b]I'm not the one claiming that Smith can overcome a TK hold.[/B]

Originally posted by dadudemon
we DO see the limit in Force TK being shown: Yoda and Sidious. They certainly pushed the limits and their final fight certainly was the best showing. They strained quite a bit and there is no doubt they were the strongest in force mastery, on screen. (Sure, Anakin may have been the strongest in the force, but his force mastery never eclipses that of Yoda and Sidious.)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
[b]I'm not the one claiming that Smith can tank a lightsaber blow.[/B]

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd like to submit to the court the following fact:

Agent Smith is so incredibly durable that a lightsaber would just bounce off of his body.

An object that can survive a punch that causes a shockwave on scale of a nuclear weapon is so incredibly durable that you would have to hold a plasma blade on that object, for a lengthy period of time, to get it to slowly start cutting it (the heat excites the molecules to the point that it starts to break the bonds, very rapidly. On the macroscopic scale, this looks like "cutting". Apply this same blade to a material that is so extremely durable that it does not "destroy" even at forces far greater than any material can withstand during the shockwave of a nuclear weapon, we have a material that could easily deflect a plasma blade with little to no damage.)

Let us also mention that the heat caused from those punches that caused those shockwaves would cause extremely high amounts of heat...also furthering my point that his body simply cannot be cut with a glancing blow from a light-saber.

I can't even begin to imagine the amount of heat created by those massive punches.

You guys need a good example? How about the pistol shrimp? Little ****er creates heat in the water that is as hot as the surface of the sun. And what is the sun? Plasma. What is a lightsaber? A plasma blade. Are the heats of the two similar? Probably. It's more likely that the plasma blades/lightsabers are a couple of thousand degrees cooler than the surface of the sun.

YouTube video

Conclusion: spite thread.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Smith never showed TK resistance.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wrong. A pile of rubble exerting 2 tons of force is no different than a strong person exerting 2 tons of force: it's still two tons of force that has to be overcome by the TK user.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lightsabers were shown slicing through durasteel.

Provide an in movie or even a featurette quote which proves this as durasteel.

Then, give some actual "physics" or "engineering" stats on durasteel AFTER proving it is durasteel using movie-only references.

On top of that, it quite clearly showed resistance to the lightsaber further proving my point.

Thank you for proving my point.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Until you show a clip of Smith resisting TK,

Originally posted by dadudemon
A pile of rubble exerting 2 tons of force is no different than a strong person exerting 2 tons of force: it's still two tons of force that has to be overcome by the TK user.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
or a clip proving his skin is harder than durasteel, you're done here. Until then, :.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd like to submit to the court the following fact:

Agent Smith is so incredibly durable that a lightsaber would just bounce off of his body.

An object that can survive a punch that causes a shockwave on scale of a nuclear weapon is so incredibly durable that you would have to hold a plasma blade on that object, for a lengthy period of time, to get it to slowly start cutting it (the heat excites the molecules to the point that it starts to break the bonds, very rapidly. On the macroscopic scale, this looks like "cutting". Apply this same blade to a material that is so extremely durable that it does not "destroy" even at forces far greater than any material can withstand during the shockwave of a nuclear weapon, we have a material that could easily deflect a plasma blade with little to no damage.)

Let us also mention that the heat caused from those punches that caused those shockwaves would cause extremely high amounts of heat...also furthering my point that his body simply cannot be cut with a glancing blow from a light-saber.

I can't even begin to imagine the amount of heat created by those massive punches.

You guys need a good example? How about the pistol shrimp? Little ****er creates heat in the water that is as hot as the surface of the sun. And what is the sun? Plasma. What is a lightsaber? A plasma blade. Are the heats of the two similar? Probably. It's more likely that the plasma blades/lightsabers are a couple of thousand degrees cooler than the surface of the sun.

YouTube video

Conclusion: spite thread.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nope. Two ways Smith can attack here:

1. Close the gap between he and Anakin, on foot, and attack CQC. If Smith does this, Anakin's precog will let him know far in advance where and Smith will be. Anakin wins via decap.

[i]Originally posted by dadudemon
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Originally posted by dadudemon
What's funny: even IF Agent Smith doesn't do that, he still wins. Even IF Agent smith doesn't fly, he still wins. Even IF Agent Smith just stands there until Anakin swings at him with his lightsaber, he still wins. Keep digging your hole, though.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
2. Smith goes to the air. Now, I have seen all the Matrix films, several times. In Reloaded, Neo takes off fast as hell at the beginning. He did so after kneeling and gathering his strength for a few seconds. This is more than enough time for Anakin to A: Force speed over and decap him, or B: Force grab, levitate, decap..

Originally posted by dadudemon
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Originally posted by dadudemon
What's funny: even IF Agent Smith doesn't do that, he still wins. Even IF Agent smith doesn't fly, he still wins. Even IF Agent Smith just stands there until Anakin swings at him with his lightsaber, he still wins. Keep digging your hole, though.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Itso facto, duder, Smith loses.[/i].

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wrong...

... it's you ignoring Smith's feats.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Now, as for the rest of your post:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001926/

Obsessive-compulsive disorder
Obsessive-compulsive neurosis; OCD

Last reviewed: February 11, 2010.

Obsessive-compulsive disorder is an anxiety disorder in which people have unwanted and repeated thoughts, feelings, ideas, sensations (obsessions), or behaviors that make them feel driven to do something (compulsions).

Often the person carries out the behaviors to get rid of the obsessive thoughts, but this only provides temporary relief. Not performing the obsessive rituals can cause great anxiety.

Get help.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Trollin' trollin' trollin'.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Provide an in movie or even a featurette quote which proves this as durasteel.

Then, give some actual "physics" or "engineering" stats on durasteel AFTER proving it is durasteel using movie-only references.

On top of that, it quite clearly showed resistance to the lightsaber further proving my point.

Thank you for proving my point.

AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA lightsabers were shown cutting through blast doors!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEE!!!! FF to 6:03!!!

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You saying that Smith's skin is more durable than blast doors?

Also, FF to 6:47 to see Jedi blocking automatic blaster fire!!!! Automatic blaster fire that moves faster than Smith!!!!!! 😱

Also, FF to 6:52 to see Jedi moving faster on foot, from point A to point B, than anyone did in the Matrix, ever. 😱 No? Observe:

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Smith is running at HUMAN speeds. I can run faster than that.

Shall I go on? I can, but I want your blessing. This is the part where you repeat yourself because I got you beat.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA lightsabers were shown cutting through blast doors!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEE!!!! FF to 6:03!!!

YouTube video

You saying that Smith's skin is more durable than blast doors?

Originally posted by dadudemon
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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Also, FF to 6:47 to see Jedi blocking automatic blaster fire!!!! Automatic blaster fire that moves faster than Smith!!!!!! 😱

Originally posted by dadudemon
...Neo [and Smith] tanked getting slammed into the street at ... supersonic speeds

Originally posted by Lestov16
"Oracle" Smith's precog shits on ANYTHING Anakin can do, combined with a speed blitz that Anakin will not be dodging= win

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Also, FF to 6:52 to see Jedi moving faster on foot, from point A to point B, than anyone did in the Matrix, ever. 😱 No? Observe:

YouTube video

Smith is running at HUMAN speeds. I can run faster than that.

Originally posted by dadudemon
...Neo [and Smith] tanked getting slammed into the street at ... supersonic speeds

Originally posted by Lestov16
"Oracle" Smith's precog shits on ANYTHING Anakin can do, combined with a speed blitz that Anakin will not be dodging= win

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Shall I go on? I can, but I want your blessing. This is the part where you repeat yourself because I got you beat.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That should be the end of the thread. Only bored people like you make it last longer. I'll be able to just copypasta my remaining replies to whatever bullshit you have left. 🙂

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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
His words, Champ.

I can say "delusions of grandeur" in several languages, if it will help sink in.

Also, FF to 6:47 to see Jedi blocking automatic blaster fire!!!! Automatic blaster fire that moves faster than Smith!!!!!!

The difference being that Smith can move out of the way of the lightsaber blade, unlike the blaster fire. He can do this at speeds far exceeding a blaster bolts speed, as seen in the Agents bullet dodging scenes.

Originally posted by Robtard
I can say "delusions of grandeur" in several languages, if it will help sink in.

Originally posted by Nephthys
The difference being that Smith can move out of the way of the lightsaber blade, unlike the blaster fire. He can do this at speeds far exceeding a blaster bolts speed, as seen in the Agents bullet dodging scenes.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Fail. Anakin will know just where to position his lightsaber.

Anakin is not Cassandra Cain. He can't dodge every single attack

Exactly. Anakin can't keep up with Smiths movements when he's going all out.

Precog warns Anakin of when the nearest and most imminent danger will be. If Smith decides to rush in and headbutt Anakin, then Anakin will know, via precog, to position his lightsaber where Smith's head will be.