Smith vs. Anakin (Lord Vader)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And a TK force hold holds him in place. It works on a cellular level, dude.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So you're in repeater mode? K. Name me one time, a single movie feat where anyone muscled out of a TK hold.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It is at this point that you show me where force TK is shown to be strong enough to hold a multi-ton lifter and super-sonic flyer in place.

Not the other way around, RJ. You have it backwards. The burden is on YOU to prove that they have force TK strong enough to do so.

we DO see the limit in Force TK being shown: Yoda and Sidious. They certainly pushed the limits and their final fight certainly was the best showing. They strained quite a bit and there is no doubt they were the strongest in force mastery, on screen. (Sure, Anakin may have been the strongest in the force, but his force mastery never eclipses that of Yoda and Sidious.)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So, in addition to being able to muscle out of a force hold (again, Smith never showed any TK resistance), he can resist force pull, push and choke?

Originally posted by dadudemon
we DO see the limit in Force TK being shown: Yoda and Sidious. They certainly pushed the limits and their final fight certainly was the best showing. They strained quite a bit and there is no doubt they were the strongest in force mastery, on screen. (Sure, Anakin may have been the strongest in the force, but his force mastery never eclipses that of Yoda and Sidious.)

Edit - Well, since RJ is the ONLY one in all the MVF arguing for Anakin, I motion that we just posting AT him. There's no reason that this thread should have gotten 13 pages long.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And how does Smith get that close to Anakin? He has to close the gap first, dude. Smith is never, not once, shown moving that fast when moving from point A to point B.

Originally posted by Robtard
No what I said. Circling.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I'm off the TK thing, duder. Pay attention.

*dadudemon checked over this thread before he posted on this page*

Not once did you admit fault or concede. Hoping people ignore it do not change that.

Originally posted by dadudemon
*dadudemon checked over this thread before he posted on this page*

Not once did you admit fault or concede. Hoping people ignore it do not change that.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Two ways Smith can attack here:

1. Close the gap between he and Anakin, on foot, and attack CQC. If Smith does this, Anakin's precog will let him know far in advance where and Smith will be. Anakin wins via decap.

2. Smith goes to the air. Now, I have seen all the Matrix films, several times. In Reloaded, Neo takes off fast as hell at the beginning. He did so after kneeling and gathering his strength for a few seconds. This is more than enough time for Anakin to A: Force speed over and decap him, or B: Force grab, levitate, decap.

There was also Smith's flying scene in Revolutions. He is knocked back my Neo, gets up, and takes off. Observe:

YouTube video

At 1:55, Smith takes off, very slowly I might add. Anakin precogs Smith's actions, uses a burst of force speed to close the gap, force jumps up and decaps Smith.

Now, if someone says "ZOMG Smith is already flying around supersonic", then the thread is spite.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Edit - Well, since RJ is the ONLY one in all the MVF arguing for Anakin, I motion that we just posting AT him. There's no reason that this thread should have gotten 13 pages long.

At least two others agree with me here. babe.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Why do you think Smtih can break a TK hold when he is never shown doing so? Talk about dumb.

Did. It was ignored and no counter-proof was given.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And I still do not concede. I am merely moving on from it, seeing as how all you have is second guessing and real life mathematical figures, which are both haermm when applied to Force powers and the Matrix.

You moving the flock back into Dodge, huh?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You mean I am the only one not intimidated? K. 😄

Intimidated? So that's how you view posting: gradeschool fights? Lame.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
At least two others agree with me here. babe.

No they don't. Stop lying.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Did. It was ignored and no counter-proof was given.

If you're talking about your two clips from X-Men and Scott Pilgram as your "proof", that's a lie. We went over it a page ago, I think others did it before me too.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You moving the flock back into Dodge, huh?

Intimidated? So that's how you view posting: gradeschool fights? Lame.

No they don't. Stop lying.

Lulz, y u mad though? You think that's air you're breathing?

Calm down.

Yeppers, read the thread. Especially where I quoted myself earlier.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lulz, y u mad though? You think that's air you're breathing?

😆

It's probably just your farts, as usual.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yeppers, read the thread. Especially where I quoted myself earlier.

Nope. Fail. It's not true. Told you it was lies.

Originally posted by dadudemon
😆

It's probably just your farts, as usual.

Nope. Fail. It's not true. Told you it was lies.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I gotcha. Gimmee a pack of gummie bears from the concession stand.

Whaaaa?

No. It's still lies. It's not true: no one supports you anymore.

Do I look like the type of guy who needs the support of others?

And BTW, my turn for repeater:

Two ways Smith can attack here:

1. Close the gap between he and Anakin, on foot, and attack CQC. If Smith does this, Anakin's precog will let him know far in advance where and Smith will be. Anakin wins via decap.

2. Smith goes to the air. Now, I have seen all the Matrix films, several times. In Reloaded, Neo takes off fast as hell at the beginning. He did so after kneeling and gathering his strength for a few seconds. This is more than enough time for Anakin to A: Force speed over and decap him, or B: Force grab, levitate, decap.

There was also Smith's flying scene in Revolutions. He is knocked back my Neo, gets up, and takes off. Observe:

YouTube video

At 1:55, Smith takes off, very slowly I might add. Anakin precogs Smith's actions, uses a burst of force speed to close the gap, force jumps up and decaps Smith.

Now, if someone says "ZOMG Smith is already flying around supersonic", then the thread is spite.

Now, if someone says "ZOMG Smith is already flying around supersonic", then the thread is spite.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
thats awfully childish 😐
you're basically saying if someone acknowledges smith flys faster then you say you'll change your vote to spite 😐

Read, think, then post.