Smith vs. Anakin (Lord Vader)

Started by Nephthys16 pages

Yeah, I have a feeling thats not going to happen.......

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, I have a feeling thats not going to happen.......

😆

His loss.

🙁

Originally posted by NowYouRemember
I have a fiancee, actually. 😛

But shit, Nephthys knows just as much as I do, maybe even more. And he's single.

So try him out. 😉

It's not the amount of shit that you know, I know close to as much, it's a SW chick thing I have. Chicks with extreme SW knowledge are droolio

Smith was "killed" by a bullet. Not sure how he is going to be tanking a laser sword through the chest. As for bullets? TK should be very effective against them.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It's not the amount of shit that you know, I know close to as much, it's a SW chick thing I have. Chicks with extreme SW knowledge are droolio

Agreed. 😉

I'm male, though. 😛

Originally posted by ares834
Smith was "killed" by a bullet. Not sure how he is going to be tanking a laser sword through the chest. As for bullets? TK should be very effective against them.

Mm, shit, good points.

You're evolving, I think. 😛

Originally posted by NowYouRemember
Agreed. 😉

I'm male, though. 😛

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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
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😛

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, I have a feeling thats not going to happen.......
You're FEELING? SENSE OFFENDER!!!!

FVCK YOU! IMMA GET A PUPPY IF I WANT TO!

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Fail. The fact that you brought up ROTS is fail. The Jedi were unaware they were about to be attacked. Their ability to use the force had diminished, Mace's words.

Name them.

Precog. Anakin is fast enough to precog where Smith will attack from and cut him to ribbons. Smith never moved fast enough so that Anakin would not know his general location. Force push, Smith flies back, followed by force hold, followed by decap.

Why didn't the Gammoreans overcome Luke's force choke then?

The jedi was actually deflecting blasts and later was killed by watching his attackers. It wasn't thousands of troops either and their speed seemed nowhere even close to an agent's speed thus my point is made.

Vade was beaten against Obi Wan because of stupidity. Vader was beaten twice against Dooku because he ran in because he's stupid and overconfident and the second time because he was just outdueled.

Anakin's speed isn't anywhere or his reaction time close to smith's or an agent. Smith was flying around and into the earth causing massive damage and wasn't even harmed at all. Neo and Smith have shown bullets are a waste of time even in the first movie when both were at their weakest and since have become so much more powerful and faster that Anakin simply cannot keep up.

Did the Gammoreans show the power or speed Smith has ?

Originally posted by ares834
Smith was "killed" by a bullet. Not sure how he is going to be tanking a laser sword through the chest. As for bullets? TK should be very effective against them.
When was oracle smith ever killed by a bullet ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The jedi was actually deflecting blasts and later was killed by watching his attackers. It wasn't thousands of troops either and their speed seemed nowhere even close to an agent's speed thus my point is made.

Vade was beaten against Obi Wan because of stupidity. Vader was beaten twice against Dooku because he ran in because he's stupid and overconfident and the second time because he was just outdueled.

Anakin's speed isn't anywhere or his reaction time close to smith's or an agent. Smith was flying around and into the earth causing massive damage and wasn't even harmed at all. Neo and Smith have shown bullets are a waste of time even in the first movie when both were at their weakest and since have become so much more powerful and faster that Anakin simply cannot keep up.

Did the Gammoreans show the power or speed Smith has ?

What exactly was your point?

Arrogance.

Anakin doesn't need Smith's reaction time, he has precognition.

Was Smith ever shown muscling out of a TK hold?

Also, how's Smith gonna get close enough to Anakin to kill him? Cuz you know, precog.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What exactly was your point?

Arrogance.

Anakin doesn't need Smith's reaction time, he has precognition.

Was Smith ever shown muscling out of a TK hold?

Also, how's Smith gonna get close enough to Anakin to kill him? Cuz you know, precog.

That a jedi's reactions are easily overwhelmed by far less than smith.

Yes, arrogance which is a part of Anakin's personality.

Precognition did't save anakin in any of these fights and he was specifically told by Obi not to jump and the idiot did it anyways.

Was a tk hold ever shown on anyone with Smith's strength and power?

Since when has precog made someone invincible ? Anakin like you yourself have admitted can be overwhelmed which he would be here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That a jedi's reactions are easily overwhelmed by far less than smith.

Yes, arrogance which is a part of Anakin's personality.

Precognition did't save anakin in any of these fights and he was specifically told by Obi not to jump and the idiot did it anyways.

Was a tk hold ever shown on anyone with Smith's strength and power?

Since when has precog made someone invincible ? Anakin like you yourself have admitted can be overwhelmed which he would be here.

Precog was shown failing when a Jedi/Sith had too much going on at ince. Like a TILT on a pinball machine.

K, and?

Because his opponent had it too. Durh.

Ah, dodging then. It was shown suspending about 5 tons worth of X Wing.

It doesn't make someone invincible. Smith has no ranged weapons or special powers, he has to go cqc here. When he tries, Anakin will know, and he will slice Smith to bits.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Precog was shown failing when a Jedi/Sith had too much going on at ince. Like a TILT on a pinball machine.

K, and?

Because his opponent had it too. Durh.

Ah, dodging then. It was shown suspending about 5 tons worth of X Wing.

It doesn't make someone invincible. Smith has no ranged weapons or special powers, he has to go cqc here. When he tries, Anakin will know, and he will slice Smith to bits.

Just like smith is capable of due to his speed. Too much going on for them to be able to react and keep up with.

That he brings his overconfidence in every thread with him.

No, you aren't getting it. He was told and should have known jumping at Obi wan would get him beaten but did so anyways because he's literally stupid.

So flying isn't a special power ? Smith showed the flat out speed to make anakin look lame by comparison. One punch to his dome and he's probably either dead,ko'd, or badly hurt.

Vader hasn't shown reaction times anywhere near this fast despite having precog.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Just like smith is capable of due to his speed. Too much going on for them to be able to react and keep up with.
Question. When Smith was chasing Neo at the end of the Matrix, why was he moving as human speeds?

That he brings his overconfidence in every thread with him.
No doubt.

No, you aren't getting it. He was told and should have known jumping at Obi wan would get him beaten but did so anyways because he's literally stupid.
Stupid? Hardly.

So flying isn't a special power ? Smith showed the flat out speed to make anakin look lame by comparison. One punch to his dome and he's probably either dead,ko'd, or badly hurt.
I meant like TK, stuff like that. If he takes off, Anakin force grabs him, pulls him close, and takes off his head.

Vader hasn't shown reaction times anywhere near this fast despite having precog.
Again, he doesn't need it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Question. When Smith was chasing Neo at the end of the Matrix, why was he moving as human speeds?

No doubt.

Stupid? Hardly.

I meant like TK, stuff like that. If he takes off, Anakin force grabs him, pulls him close, and takes off his head.

Again, he doesn't need it.

When was he moving at human speeds at the end ? End of which movie the first or third ?

So jumping at your opponent when the person you are fighting and you yourself both know will get you beat isn't stupid ? Ignoring your training because you feel yourself capable of anything isn't stupid ?

Anakin has never used this power on someone with speed or power like Smith. Against powerful opponents it isn't this easy nor has any jedi off the top of my head used it against Jango fett.

So now you think he doesn't need reaction feats to compete with someone as fast as Smith while at the same time agreeing precog can be overwhelmed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When was he moving at human speeds at the end ? End of which movie the first or third ?
I am talking about any of the movies, when he was moving from point A to B. If he has to move 20 feet to close the distance between he and his foe.

So jumping at your opponent when the person you are fighting and you yourself both know will get you beat isn't stupid ? Ignoring your training because you feel yourself capable of anything isn't stupid ?
He overestimated his powers.

Anakin has never used this power on someone with speed or power like Smith. Against powerful opponents it isn't this easy nor has any jedi off the top of my head used it against Jango fett.
Not really an answer, dude.

So now you think he doesn't need reaction feats to compete with someone as fast as Smith while at the same time agreeing precog can be overwhelmed.
He needs reaction feats, I never said he didn't.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I am talking about any of the movies, when he was moving from point A to B. If he has to move 20 feet to close the distance between he and his foe.

He overestimated his powers.

Not really an answer, dude.

He needs reaction feats, I never said he didn't.

He was flying at Neop at the end of the third at faster than human speeds and we are using the Oracle based Smith.

Yes, which he will most likely do here as well.

You don't have any proof to solidify your claim.

Then you agree since they aren't on par with Smith's that he loses.