Originally posted by SlightlyFlaccid
Strictly speaking, the musings or words of a character in a third person limited story aren't necessarily factual simply because that character isn't omniscient.
But therin lies the problem. Limited narriation is not resticted to the musing of a character, only to the knowledge of which that character has.
ares834
But therin lies the problem. Limited narriation is not resticted to the musing of a character, only to the knowledge of which that character has.
Which is articulated through external (words) and internal (musings) communication. Bane, for example, would be unable to accurately conclude whether Kas'im is the most skilled duelist in history. Certainly, if he is an informed individual (which he is), he is in a position to determine whether or not Kas'im is very skilled or relatively elite, but I'm not sure he'd know for certain Kas'im's standing.
Originally posted by SlightlyFlaccid
Which is articulated through external (words) and internal (musings) communication.
Not neccesarily. In a limited novel, naration ins't compoed entirely of the character's thoughts and musing. In fact, PoD makes it explicity clear when we are reading Bane's thoughts using such things as "Bane thought".
Originally posted by SlightlyFlaccidYour current name throws everyone off.
N., no.These gentlemen remain unconvinced of my superior sexual prowess. What fools. sneer
Anyways, the Bane novels are third-person ltd., whether the narrative is following Bane, Zannah, Johun, or anyone else. The audience is being made privy to information one character at a time, and only as that character sees it. Bane tells us his plans, and as Johun we're ignorant. It's entirely possible for there to be several perspectives and still have central character be unable to speak without the power of the all-knowing author. Harry Potter did that a few times in books 1, 4 and 6---telling us about Harry's background before Harry himself knew, telling us about Voldemort's return before Harry knew, and holding a meeting between Muggle and Wizard Prime Ministers without Harry knowing. Just because it switched perspective, doesn't give Harry supreme authority on anything, much less as an accurate gauge of millennia.
I recall reading the Bane novels through such a third-person ltd. Bane's musing, feelings, observation, and opinion, no matter how vociferous, are just opinions. We don't take Kreia's attitude on the Anicents' skills as absolute fact, we shouldn't do the same for Bane.
ares834
Not neccesarily. In a limited novel, naration ins't compoed entirely of the character's thoughts and musing. In fact, PoD makes it explicity clear when we are reading Bane's thoughts using such things as "Bane thought".
Musings need not be specifically identified nor (as they are in other novels, fanfics, etc.) italicized. In third person limited, we are reading events through the perception of the viewpoint character. It's all coming from his or her mind.
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I can't, I'm busy watching The Major's pert buttocks in her ridiculous swimsuit thing.is good
Major who?
And while that may be, Angel is better. (And also has pert buttocks.)
Lucien
Your current name throws everyone off.
I believe you all grossly overestimate the meaning of slight. sneer
Lucien
We don't take Kreia's attitude on the Anicents' skills as absolute fact,
I believe I can introduce you to two prominent posters who would shatter your little paradigm here.
Originally posted by SlightlyFlaccid
Musings need not be specifically identified nor (as they are in other novels, fanfics, etc.) italicized. In third person limited, we are reading events through the perception of the viewpoint character. It's all coming from his or her mind.
I never said it was. However, Drew does use such tricks suggesting the rest is not from Bane's perpective. Also the narrator isn't shown to be unreliable so I am unsure why we should treat it as such.