Thor (without Mjolnir) VS Wolverine

Started by strengthkills78 pages

Originally posted by jinzin
Do you mean outnumbered?

I hardly think I'm outmatched here. 😬

yeah outnumbered i couldnt really think of a better word hence the give him a hand comment thing....... my bad

Originally posted by jinzin
And that proves it can crush every bone in Hulk's body how? 😕
It wouldn't actually... it would kill Hulk... instantly, if he's lucky.

Also, it ruled out Juggernaut's forward momentum (the whole unstoppable thing going for him), and it blew threw Exitar's dome, which is harder than his exterior.

Plus, Galactus>>>>>>not enough things on here... Hulk.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
It wouldn't actually... it would kill Hulk... instantly, if he's lucky.

Also, it ruled out Juggernaut's forward momentum (the whole unstoppable thing going for him), and it blew threw Exitar's dome, which is harder than his exterior.

Plus, Galactus>>>>>>not enough things on here... Hulk.

uve been on medication again havent u 🙁

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
It wouldn't actually... it would kill Hulk... instantly, if he's lucky.

Also, it ruled out Juggernaut's forward momentum (the whole unstoppable thing going for him), and it blew threw Exitar's dome, which is harder than his exterior.

Plus, Galactus>>>>>>not enough things on here... Hulk.

would it? didn't hulk stand up to it in last hero standing?

something else Hulk's done.

can't comment on exitar

It hurt galactus, and no one said it wouldn't hurt hulk... but break every bone in his body? you already admitted it wouldn't. and when sentry's construct did it, it was hardly trying.

I'm feeling there's a reason no one 'sides DC ever answered up to this.

Originally posted by leonidas
because i'm bored, i'm gonna play wolvie's advocate. actually, i'v enot heard a lot of compelling arguments from thor-people. it's the same old "thor's too strong", "thor's too powerful", but with nothing to back up anything anyone is saying. let's check out a couple of wolvie facts:

-he's beaten hercules (canon) 😠
-he's gone h2h with namor twice and NOT been ko'd
-he's messed with hulk LOADS of times and in a what if, killed him. hulk has NOT done well against him. in fact, wolvie did better against hulk than THOR did without his hammer! hulk has smashed him repeatedly, but wolvie did not fall or get ko'd.
-in three shots, wolvie has taken down the abomination
-he's gone h2h with wendigo
-he's cut thor, and from all appearances, thor was pretty badly hurt, though not to say disabled in anyway
-he's cut thanos
-he's carved up hulk
-his speed and skill is enough to repeatedly tag spiderman, speed demon and quicksilver

now, thor is not using ANY magic, he's fighting just h2h. thor is faster? proof, anyone? thor is a more skilled fighter? proof anyone? because despite his years, i'd give skill to wolvierine. a 1000 years fighting the same style and the same style opponents does not equate to tremendous fighting skills. so thor tried to throw him into orbit -- gets sliced. now what does he do? and wolverine IS capable to putting a hurting on him if he claws thor's eyes, or puts a claw in his ear.

so, if you think thor is faster, prove it. if you think thor is more skilled, prove it. wolverine specializes in this type of fight. thor is NOT invulnerable, does not have the speed to dodge all the attacks (unless someone proves otherwise), so it is likely he will get tagged. can he do enough damage to thor before thor really gets hold of him . . .?

Lol I've seen a scan of Hulk ripping Wolverine in half I don't know if its real or not but that was hilarious.

Originally posted by Arctic
Lol I've seen a scan of Hulk ripping Wolverine in half I don't know if its real or not but that was hilarious.
Ultimate

Originally posted by Arctic
Lol I've seen a scan of Hulk ripping Wolverine in half I don't know if its real or not but that was hilarious.

It's canon, but not for the 616 universe. It's from the Ultimate universe Wolverine.

Proof that Thor's faster than Hulk, and Wolverine.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsUlik1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsUlik2.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsWreckingcrew1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsWreckingcrew2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsWreckingcrew3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsWreckingcrew4.jpg

Notice above how Thor casually catches Mjolnir out the air. Mjolnir when thrown travels at multiples of the speed of light.

Watch how Thor casually owns the Hulk through skill and speed.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk5.jpg

For those who claim Thor isn't responsible for swinging Mjolnir at light speeds, thus being a testament to his arm speed.

"SWINGING his hammer Far faster than the mortal eye can perceive"

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor38809hc7.jpg

Lets see this hyped attack that Wolverine got off on King Thor.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorvseverybody5.jpg

Notice how after Wolverine attacks Thor there's no sign of blood or damage. The only indication that Thor felt the attack is we see him holding his harm, and lets face it even we hold our arms after bee stings.

Originally posted by jinzin
would it? didn't hulk stand up to it in last hero standing?

something else Hulk's done.

can't comment on exitar

It hurt galactus, and no one said it wouldn't hurt hulk... but break every bone in his body? you already admitted it wouldn't. and when sentry's construct did it, it was hardly trying.

Hulk dies after this attack......

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor38809hc7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor38810yh9.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst6.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsCelestial1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsCelestial2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsCelestal3.jpg

Originally posted by jinzin
would it? didn't hulk stand up to it in last hero standing?

something else Hulk's done.

can't comment on exitar

It hurt galactus, and no one said it wouldn't hurt hulk... but break every bone in his body? you already admitted it wouldn't. and when sentry's construct did it, it was hardly trying.

Not canon, if he did...

Hulk hasn't stopped Juggernaut... unless you're talking about War Hulk, which took him miles to do.
Thor did it in a second...

It almost killed Galactus...
No, it wouldn't... it would kill him, or disintegrate him, but not break his bones...

Originally posted by Arctic
Lol I've seen a scan of Hulk ripping Wolverine in half I don't know if its real or not but that was hilarious.
it was the ultimate universe. Logan's admantium skeleton wasn't put together the same way as 616.

Originally posted by jinzin
it was the ultimate universe. Logan's admantium skeleton wasn't put together the same way as 616.
Jin, why was it shown in a Logan flashback/dream/hallucination a few issues ago? I never understood it. 😕

Originally posted by Badabing
Jin, why was it shown in a Logan flashback/dream/hallucination a few issues ago? I never understood it. 😕

Hasn't been revealed yet, but right after Wolverine had visions of the the Lupine Clan and that has yet to be fully explained as well.

Originally posted by His Airness
Proof that Thor's faster than Hulk, and Wolverine.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsUlik1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsUlik2.jpg

How the hell is that proof of ANYTHING? 🤨

He bobs and weaves around two of Uliks blows and he's faster than Wolverine and Hulk now?

Uh... no...

Originally posted by His Airness
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsWreckingcrew1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsWreckingcrew2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsWreckingcrew3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsWreckingcrew4.jpg

Notice above how Thor casually catches Mjolnir out the air. Mjolnir when thrown travels at multiples of the speed of light.

And Ghost Rider has explained EXACTLY why... He stated that both him and Thor can percieve magical or enchanted tools like the hammer to react to them.. Something that isn't his hammer though. Ironic because When GR rode the hammer back in, Thor while capible of reacting the hammer itself couldn't do a thing about GR.

Originally posted by His Airness
Watch how Thor casually owns the Hulk through skill and speed.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorowninghulk5.jpg

I don't see any owning. The best Thor does there is hit Hulk, dodge once, and show us that Hulk has no concept of leverage.
You even have Odin sitting there talking about how Thor's never been so close to defeat, and the pillar collapsing is a total mishap that was Hulk's fault. 😬

Originally posted by His Airness
For those who claim Thor isn't responsible for swinging Mjolnir at light speeds, thus being a testament to his arm speed.

"SWINGING his hammer Far faster than the mortal eye can perceive"

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor38809hc7.jpg

Hammer feat, not a fight feat = unuseable.. We say the same damn thing when he fought mongoose, he had to let his hammer do what he himself couldn't.

Originally posted by His Airness
Lets see this hyped attack that Wolverine got off on King Thor.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/Thorvseverybody5.jpg

Notice how after Wolverine attacks Thor there's no sign of blood or damage. The only indication that Thor felt the attack is we see him holding his harm, and lets face it even we hold our arms after bee stings.

Pffft.. you serious?

I'll cover this in my actual reply.

Originally posted by Badabing
Jin, why was it shown in a Logan flashback/dream/hallucination a few issues ago? I never understood it. 😕
From any of the stories, rumors or interviews I've read, it's basically just an in-joke.. Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk was supposed to come out like two years ago and be finished, they got through the first two issues, the first of which shows ultimate Wolverine being ripped him half. After the second issue came out, Marvel decided to postpone the series until all the issues were finished.. then I don't know what happened but the series jus stayed cancelled...

The end of Wolverine 50 to me is just a throw away story with the in-joke at the end.

Like if Ultimate Hulk vs Wolverine is never completed, than the ramifications account for nothing.. it's like a bad dream.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Not canon, if he did...

Hulk hasn't stopped Juggernaut... unless you're talking about War Hulk, which took him miles to do.
Thor did it in a second...

It almost killed Galactus...
No, it wouldn't... it would kill him, or disintegrate him, but not break his bones...


I was just asking.

Thor did? or his magic/hammer?

Wasn't Galactus also incredibly weakened or am I mistaken?

Originally posted by His Airness
Hulk dies after this attack......

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor38809hc7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/thor38810yh9.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsGalactusfirst6.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsCelestial1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsCelestial2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Thor%20Feats/ThorvsCelestal3.jpg

I don't see hulk in any of these scans.

In any case, I've come to the conclusion that none of this really matters has Thor DOESN'T have his hammer and godblasts in this thread, While Sentry retained all of his powers in their fight.

Thus far I haven't seen huge amounts of positive feats for Thor without his hammer or magical capabilities.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hasn't been revealed yet, but right after Wolverine had visions of the the Lupine Clan and that has yet to be fully explained as well.
I'm hoping everything is explained soon so I can stop being confused. 😖

Do you think this will bring some sort of closure to his past?

Originally posted by Badabing
I'm hoping everything is explained soon so I can stop being confused. 😖

Do you think this will bring some sort of closure to his past?

Are you joking? 😐

It's Wolverine.. 😬

lol, no sadly I don't.... So far they haven't done much to explain anything and to be honest, I think they've left WAAAAAYYYY too many question marks to answer in one page..

I gotta be honest the last year and a half of Wolverine issues has been sorely dissapointing, I was hoping that we'd get some really great stories with all his memories supposedly now revealed to him, and we just... didn't.

Look at origins, it started with Wolverine hell bent on reeking vengeance on the governments of the world that did what they did to him... by issue two he nixed that plan to go find Nuke and say he was sorry?
By issue 4 he reveals to Cap the conspiracy theory of a "them" but by issue 5 he forgets all about "them" to go on a quest to find his son.... And pretty much everything in between that was filler.

Both titles turned into a hard suck fest and I'm slowly losing my patience with the character. 😬