Hopefully we will not have fanboyism on both sides.
Force vs magic? Good battle. Personally on me for the Sith and Jedi, it depends on strength and power of the Force wielder. During the Clone Wars, we see most of the Force abilities that are described. I do not think any Wizard in HP mythos would survive a FL attack. One of the Jedi and Sith rudimentary powers is a Force shield and that would provide them with some protection. A lightsaber can cleave a body with ease. There are other abilities, but it would take to long to write.
Harry Potter, I'm not too well knowledgable so someone will have to argue for him.
I noticed in the recent film a couple of Slitherin kids created huge fire creatures in the shape of snakes and lions and stuff. What's stopping such creatures being made in their hundreds swarming the Jedi/Sith and incinerating them?
I'm talking about the scene when Harry and friends take on Malfoy and his friends in the hidden treasure room.
Harry Potter is full of inconsistencies. But those 3 kids created those creatures with a mere flick of their wands. And Jedi/Sith aint blocking giant fire inferno creatures.
Originally posted by the ninjak
I noticed in the recent film a couple of Slitherin kids created huge fire creatures in the shape of snakes and lions and stuff. What's stopping such creatures being made in their hundreds swarming the Jedi/Sith and incinerating them?
I'm talking about the scene when Harry and friends take on Malfoy and his friends in the hidden treasure room.Harry Potter is full of inconsistencies. But those 3 kids created those creatures with a mere flick of their wands. And Jedi/Sith aint blocking giant fire inferno creatures.
but by that same token avada kedavra won't work either since it failed to kill harry..
with force choke, force lightning and lightsabers, jedi/sith win..
Excellent question ninjak. Many of the Jedi and Sith know (but not seen in films) of similar powers. It's called Sith Sorcery and very few have the ability to wield much less control it (see Darth Zannah). Controlling fear can easily overcome those attacks along with a Force Jump. Jedi/Sith can also augment their speed. It is seen in TPM.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalkerThat's because of Harry Potter as being a horcrux himself and this won't apply to anyone outside of Harry Potter.
but by that same token avada kedavra won't work either since it failed to kill harry..with force choke, force lightning and lightsabers, jedi/sith win..
I don't see force choke as dominating anyone in the harry potter verse.
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Excellent question ninjak. Many of the Jedi and Sith know (but not seen in films) of similar powers. It's called Sith Sorcery and very few have the ability to wield much less control it (see Darth Zannah). Controlling fear can easily overcome those attacks along with a Force Jump. Jedi/Sith can also augment their speed. It is seen in TPM.
We have no environment for this fight. So by forum rules it must be a huge voided arena. Those fire creatures consumed the ground in around 30 secs. Imagine hundreds of wizards casting the spell then hitting the sky in smoke form. The Jedi can jump in the sky or amp their speed but it's only a matter of time before they're consumed in flames. Alot of wizards will die as well but Slitherin children did this.
Are we going by film feats only I've never seen Jedi/Sith display such feats in the films. Including the Clone Wars movie.
Originally posted by the ninjakYes, no animated films just the regular movies.
We have no environment for this fight. So by forum rules it must be a huge voided arena. Those fire creatures consumed the ground in around 30 secs. Imagine hundreds of wizards casting the spell then hitting the sky in smoke form. The Jedi can jump in the sky or amp their speed but it's only a matter of time before they're consumed in flames. Alot of wizards will die as well but Slitherin children did this.Are we going by film feats only I've never seen Jedi/Sith display such feats in the films. Including the Clone Wars movie.
Quan. A question people haven't been able to answer is why Harry survived a Death Spell. You said he was a holcrux. What does that mean exactly?
Was he one of Voldy's anchors to the physical world?
And his temporary death meant the link was severed?
And if so why did it mean he could shake off its effects?
Originally posted by the ninjakThe death curse only killed the part of Voldemort's soul that was attached to Harry imo. Harry also allowed himself to be killed/well Voldemort's soul anyways but could return from his own choosing because of this and because he was the rightful wielder of the elder wand so he had to allow the killling curse to work on him in the first place.
Quan. A question people haven't been able to answer is why Harry survived a Death Spell. You said he was a holcrux. What does that mean exactly?
Was he one of Voldy's anchors to the physical world?
And his temporary death meant the link was severed?
And if so why did it mean he could shake off its effects?
The fight was rigged so Voldemort was going to lose no matter what because of the elder wand and it being malfoy's who harry potter disarmed so he was rightful owner and being the reason it resisted Voldemort.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Cool so it was part Voldy killing Harry's link to Voldy and the fact that the wand was unaligned. Cheers.
Sorta. It's not fully explained in the movie. But remember in the fourth movie that Voldemort recreated his body using Harry's blood. This allowed Lily's protection for Harry to continue to exist even after Harry "died". In this way Voldemort was a psuedo-horcrux for Harry. As for the wand thing... Unlike in the book it is effective agianst him so that is not the reason.
Originally posted by Darth Truculent
TPM is an acronym for "The Phantom Menace" - Obi Wan and Qui Gon-Jinn were under fire by destroyer droids when they fled using Force augmented speed.
Yeah but what's that gonna do in a forum arena environment when then entire ground is consumed in an fiery living inferno?