Originally posted by ThorenYou really don't think they can win here ? Think about how many wizards were seen in the final battle as well.
I see Dumbledore and Voldemort giving loads of trouble to the Jedi and Sith. But I don't think the wizards will take this fight, but will inflict major casualties to the jedi/sith.
Definitely the wizards win. We've already been over the reasons why.
Fiendfyre is hardly the reason. Jedi and Sith could easily control the extremely "lightweight" fire. It's the fact that some of the more powerful wizards have better TK feats than the force users: busting up all the glass in a room hundreds of feet tall, "force stopping" a train, and so forth.
I think the force users are more than enough to kill most of the wizards. It comes down to the fastest and most skilled wizards turning the tide.
And before a wizard supporter says it: a force user could easily force push and pull a wizard around, while either party is in a shield charm.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The death curse only killed the part of Voldemort's soul that was attached to Harry imo. Harry also allowed himself to be killed/well Voldemort's soul anyways but could return from his own choosing because of this and because he was the rightful wielder of the elder wand so he had to allow the killling curse to work on him in the first place.The fight was rigged so Voldemort was going to lose no matter what because of the elder wand and it being malfoy's who harry potter disarmed so he was rightful owner and being the reason it resisted Voldemort.
Just clarifying -
BECAUSE Harry sacrificed himself to Voldy's Avada Kedavra, it pulled the same blessing that happened when Lily sacrificed herself for Harry - for a great while, Voldemort couldn't directly harm Harry.
So when Harry sacrificed himself for all of the wizard world and especially the people at Hogwarts.... well, the charm went mega and all of Hogwarts was protected from Voldemort's curses. Nothing can now touch those wizards.
As Dumbledore explained, when Voldemort used Harry's blood to re-solidify himself, that was the second link between them. As long as Voldemort had a bit of Harry's blood in him, he couldn't kill Harry, So the AK killed the Horcrux that was Harry, and regular Harry came back to life.
I know, it's really confusing. But I guess is on point - to show just exactly how powerful and weaved in and complicated magic is - especially to those who know how to wield it.
And if both Voldemort and Dumbledore are fighting the Jedi/Sith/Star Wars canon, then their chanced of winning are doubled. Dumbledore as the Greatest Wizard who lived, and Voldemort as the Greatest Evil Wizard that ever lived. United, as the fight starter has put them... and with the thousands of spells at a wizard's command... I have to say JK Rowlings universe wins.
ETA : are you allowing HP-verse creatures as well? Because then we've got to include dragons, sphinxes, poisonous plants, giants, hippogriffs, giant spiders, giant snakes, pixies, grindylows, unicorns, slugs, werewolves, vampires, and even monster books.
Wizards have more pure Power than the other side, and every wizard can summon high amounts of power, the great wizards can summon awesome amounts of power... not like Jedi, whose skills are varied and some even not yet trained.
@Sirius
But Voldemort was still blowing people back aka neville. I have heard in the movie they make this painfully clear but do you feel they did so in this movie.
I also don't include any of the creatures just wizards only just like jedi/sith can be creatures or aliens but no aliens outside of the jedi/sith.
@quanchi - yes, that was made very, very clear in the books because it solved a big mystery that HP nutters like me were concerned about.
Something very big from the fourth book [Goblet of Fire] was that when Dumbledore heard that Voldemort had used Harry's blood, he looked "triumphant." And the seventh book told us why. [because Harry couldn't be killed if Voldemort was still alive, because apparently if the source dies, the rivers die too.]
In the movie when Harry was in the "in-between place," Dumbles explains the spell and its reaction, but for me I needed to read it to understand it rather than hear it to understand it. But of course, movie Harry had blue eyes, not emerald, and brown hair, not black, but everything still worked out. Because I have read the books, I was able to intuit those moments in the film which touched on the subject.
If I hadn't read the books, I'd be totally dazed and confused right now, and saying something nice about the cinematography and action shots.