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Started by King Kandy5 pages

Originally posted by Bentley
I agree with ODG and KK, it's more or less what we've always done when retcons happen.

I'd like to point out Storm Watch characters will likely be hit harder since they'll be thrown into an entirely new continuity, which means Digi's respect threads are officially useless 😖hifty:

This thread raises the question of which different versions of each character "exist", obviously an exhaustive list would be impossible, but its part of what makes cannon rules hard.


That's what I was trying to get done in the character ruling thread. Which now it seems will never actually come to anything.

He means Wildstorm characters. 😎

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He means Wildstorm characters. 😎

I probably meant that 😖hifty:

It is entirely dependent on how different the new versions of characters will be in comparison to their current selves. For instance, we'll almost certainly have to differentiate between pre/post Flashpoint Superman- but we likely won't have to do the same for guys like Swamp Thing, who aren't being retooled down to the molecular level.

Only time will tell.

If we do differentiate, will we call current versions 'Post Crisis' or 'Pre-FP/PFP' or something?

^ If it comes down to it, I'd suggest:

"PC" for pre-Crisis
"classic" for post-Crisis to pre-Flashpoint
"current" for post-Flashpoint

Phuck Flashpoint. It's Age of Apocalypse-lite.

PC = Pre-Crisis
PF = Pre-Flash-Point (the versions we used here for years)
no mentioning = new stuff

It's not rocket sience really we already did this stuff.

I suggest:

Pre-Crisis
Pre-Reboot
Post-Reboot

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ If it comes down to it, I'd suggest:

"[b]PC" for pre-Crisis
"classic" for post-Crisis to pre-Flashpoint
"current" for post-Flashpoint

Phuck Flashpoint. It's Age of Apocalypse-lite. [/B]

👆

Whatever we call them or break them down into, the vast majority of us will all know what we mean.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ If it comes down to it, I'd suggest:

"[b]PC" for pre-Crisis
"classic" for post-Crisis to pre-Flashpoint
"current" for post-Flashpoint[/B]

clapclap

Likely the best route to travel.

Pre-reboot or Pre-Flashpoint will be better than Classic in the long run, Classic should be clear cut though -an older established version can only be the pre-reboot version by any logic-.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I suggest:

Pre-Crisis
Pre-Reboot
Post-Reboot

I'd go with this. Simple enough...

DC is really pissing me off with this reboot... All that time collecting years of history only to have apart of it be changed. thumbdown

I like Kandy's suggestion as well, except that it can't be abbreviated. For instance, we know what "PC" means without question- but if someone only used the abbreviation "PR" Superman in a thread (which would inevitably happen), we wouldn't know whether they mean post-reboot, or pre-reboot. Ya feelz me?

This is going to be a headache of course.

You still get people regular do threads staring "Batgirl!" without specifying which one, and often meaning Cassandra even though Steph's been BG for two years.

OneDumbG0
We already differentiate "classic/current JMS" Wonder Woman.

Which turned out to be kinda needless- Odyssey WW is a one-storyline wonder who never stayed on one power level long enough to debate until she's practically back to classic.

^ It's been over a year since JMS has wrung Diana through the ringer. That's even longer than Heroes Reborn.

Originally posted by Galan007
I like Kandy's suggestion as well, except that it can't be abbreviated. For instance, we know what "PC" means- but if someone stated only "PR" Superman in a thread, we don't know whether they mean post-reboot, or pre-reboot. Ya feelz me?
I would lol everytime I see "PR Superman." I'd think of -Pr-.

And "PF Wonder Woman" sounds like Phoenix Force Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I suggest:

Pre-Crisis
Pre-Reboot
Post-Reboot

I think this may cause confusion as pre-crisis can also be considered pre-reboot

I'd go with ODG's suggestion

pre-crisis
classic (from post crisis to pre reboot)
current (post-reboot)

Classic makes me thing PC, but I don't give a shit - I'll go with whatever.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ If it comes down to it, I'd suggest:

"[b]PC" for pre-Crisis
"classic" for post-Crisis to pre-Flashpoint
"current" for post-Flashpoint

Phuck Flashpoint. It's Age of Apocalypse-lite. [/B]


I was thinking PC-Pre Crisis, NE-New Earth, and Current-Post Flashpoint

Right now we have Pre and Post Crisis... not sure why Post Crisis needs a new moniker in the wake of Flash Point.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I think this may cause confusion as pre-crisis can also be considered pre-reboot

I'd go with ODG's suggestion

pre-crisis
classic (from post crisis to pre reboot)
current (post-reboot)


I hate the term classic. To me classic means the oldest version. It wouldn't call post-crisis "classic" when most of the characters had already had decades of history by that time... Hell, superman was over 50 years old when the crisis hit. Hardly "classic".

I think we should always tie it to a specific event. That way there is no confusion where one starts and one ends.

I have an alternate idea that carries this goal out, with four designations:

pre-1956 (golden age)
pre-1985 (pre-crisis)
pre-2011 (post-crisis)
post-2011 (rebooted)

with this system, there would be no vagueness in which showings are valid.