Who is more evil, Voldemort or Darth Sidious ?

Started by quanchi11215 pages

Yes, but the guy with more evidence and better reasoning obviously wins the debate.

Well I'd say sidious . Voldemort is the better character so his evil actions are at least understandable while Palestine is evil for the fun of it

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Well I'd say sidious . Voldemort is the better character so his evil actions are at least understandable while Palestine is evil for the fun of it
That is blatantly untrue. Palpatine didn't even view himself as evil for the sake of it and wanted to bring peace to the galaxy which isn't evil. What examples are you thinking of for Sidious ?

He wants to bring peace by starting a war? That seems counter intuitive .

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
He wants to bring peace by starting a war? That seems counter intuitive .
Sometimes you need a war to establish law and order. Palaptine didn't take over the galaxy to be evil he did so because he believed in his way. That isn't evil.

Well same goes for tom though. He legitimately believed all mules sucked and the world would be better without them. But while tom believes that through having a terrible father and inheriting in from salaam, pals got his from...meh.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Well same goes for tom though. He legitimately believed all mules sucked and the world would be better without them. But while tom believes that through having a terrible father and inheriting in from salaam, pals got his from...meh.
See that's different as Palpatine didn't show any racist behavior but just wanted to run and make it a well oiled machine. Whereas Voldemort specially targeted a group not because of their behavior or actions which is far more evil.

Well from my point of view the jedi are evil.

Didn't work when anny did it. Doesn't work when you do it

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Well from my point of view the jedi are evil.

Didn't work when anny did it. Doesn't work when you do it

I said the Sith and Palpatine are evil but not as evil as Voldemort. The evidence doesn't support it. Voldemort was on another level.

Not really. His evil came from racism pals comes from absolutely nothing. Voldemort is just such a better written character to be as cartoony evil as Palestine.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Not really. His evil came from racism pals comes from absolutely nothing. Voldemort is just such a better written character to be as cartoony evil as Palestine.
Voldemort was racist and had much more evil acts that he himself committed than Palpatine. The other thing I can gather from Palp supporters are their feelings about him being more evil. It isn't based off any evidence just their instincts. Hilarious tbh.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No keep it up ES2! Keeping him occupied here distracts him and reduces his trolling on other threads.

Nah DT, my personal enjoyment must come second to the needs of the forum 😂

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Nah DT, my personal enjoyment must come second to the needs of the forum 😂
Your concession has already been happily accepted. I break your will in every thread you oppose me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you didn't read my quotes and are trying to misrepresent my argument.

I'm just going off what you said to me in our discussion really. Palpatine is repeatedly aggressive towards the jedi, it's not the other way around.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Well I'd say sidious . Voldemort is the better character so his evil actions are at least understandable while Palestine is evil for the fun of it

What are you talking about? Voldemort's actions are the very opposite of "understandable". I'm pretty sure he's evil because he was conceived via magical rape. He didn't suffer a tragic event nor was he mistreated at all. There is no sob story. He was in an orphanage until he was 10 yes, but he terrorized the people there too. He was never the victim. For whatever reason he was born an a-hole.

Palpatine had fun being evil, but he wasn't evil for the fun of it. He wanted power, he saw the darkside as the best way to do it.

Both these people committed atrocities. Voldemort was going to kill a baby. Palpatine ordered kids killed. Neither of them could truly be trusted by their allies. I suppose you could argue Voldemort did kinda consider sparing Harry's mom, but she just wouldn't get out of the way so he thought f*ck it. Chicks, amirite?

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm just going off what you said to me in our discussion really. Palpatine is repeatedly aggressive towards the jedi, it's not the other way around.
He is but they came after him and he responded.

Originally posted by Nibedicus

I can certainly see Vader outranking (or at the very least be equal to) Tarkin somewhere else as a possibilty. Might even see it in Rogue One, who knows?

SPOILERS FOR ROGUE ONE:

I think we can now safely say Tarkin doesn't outrank Vader. If anything Vader seems to have the higher rank outside of the DS.

Which makes it even more embarrassing for Darth Vader.

It really doesn't matter who is more evil. What matters is who is more cunning and patient. The Sith were known for their patience beginning with Bane. Sidious would probably ally himself Voldemort and betray and kill him down the road sometime. What many here are forgetting is that Sidious's Master was *Darth Palegius and remember that Palegius "had such a knowledge of the dark side that he was able to cheat death" (one of the conspiracies is that Snoke is Palegius) - it is unknown whether Sidious knew that ability. He just stringed Anakin along to turn him.