Originally posted by ares834EU isn't up for consideration. Answer me this do you think Sidious had any friends ?
Mere excuses. Palpatine wanted control off the galaxy because he is a power hungry bastard not because he wanteded to defend it. And if we want to take the EU into consideration well then you gotta include DE where his end goal is to turn everyone into his dark side slaves.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't think he'd consider Vader a friend or those two he watched the opera with in rots ?
As for the other two. Those are merely his bureaucratic aides there is no reason to believe there is any friendship between them. Heck, listen to how cooly he dismisses them in RotS.
Voldemort - and I think one of the key battles here is when Voldemort kills Snape... it's a lot worse in the book, Voldemort drags out the time, saying that Snape is his most trusted servant, has done the most to help Voldemort, Voldemort would always bring his most troublesome problems to Snape to fix.
And if that's not enough, he put Snape in charge of his "inheritance," the one place he actually revered - Hogwarts.
And then he kills this man without a glance backward - doesn't even stay to see Snape die off, or tell him that "this is for the best." Nope - just tells the snake to attack. Voldemort didn't even trouble to his confidante himself, he let his pet do it.
That moment shows just how irredeemable Tom Riddle really is.
How old is Palpatine when he starts being evil? Just starting with the new triliogy?
Cause Voldemort killed his own family when he was fifteen. He did disturbing things to the kids in the orphanage he lived in from being an infant, to being eleven. And that's not even starting to train his evilness.
Voldemort.... is a bad. Egg.
Originally posted by ares834Yes, once he outlived his usefulness he was fully prepared to kill or do away with Vader by Luke's hand.
No... Vader plans to overthrow Palpatine from the start and Palpatine actually wants Luke to kill Vader.As for the other two. Those are merely his bureaucratic aides there is no reason to believe there is any friendship between them. Heck, listen to how cooly he dismisses them in RotS.
He probably didn't have any friends we can prove but I just think Voldemort was more ruthless and didn't take anyone else' opinion more so than Sidious.
Originally posted by ares834
Mere excuses. Palpatine wanted control off the galaxy because he is a power hungry bastard not because he wanteded to defend it. And if we want to take the EU into consideration well then you gotta include DE where his end goal is to turn everyone into his dark side slaves.
Voldemort, but not by much.
The key difference between the two is that everything Voldemort did, he completely chose to do, Sidious was raised and bred by his master, and beyond that felt the natural taint of the Dark Side, so you could argue that not all of the evils he committed were entirely of his choosing.
Grand Moff Tarkin>Both though.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wasn't Palpatine actually a little afraid of Tarkin because of how devoid he was of any form of empathy or humanity?Or maybe afraid isn't the right word.
Not afraid, but taken back. It wasn't because Tarkin was more evil, but because Palpatine was always the dirtiest guy around, but then he met someone that could challenge that, not surpass it.
Originally posted by Mr. RhythmicNot but the manner of their interactions was vastly different. No one was anything to Voldemort unlike Vader whom of which Sidious thought would be greater even than him one day.
No, not at all. Those were pawns, not friends.
Do you think Voldemort considers his Deatheaters friends?
Originally posted by Mr. RhythmicI'd say Tarkin is a bit more vile and evil than Palpatine is.
Not afraid, but taken back. It wasn't because Tarkin was more evil, but because Palpatine was always the dirtiest guy around, but then he met someone that could challenge that, not surpass it.
Being a completely normal human being helps.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Voldemort by far. Palpatine because he manipulated the Senate? Those guys were a bunch of tards and you know it. And even if I did find that impressive, that's not "evil". Voldemort is "evil". He is cruel, kills without compunction, all for essentially sadism.
So the Harry Potter folk aren't 'tards? 🙄
Originally posted by siriuswriter
Voldemort - and I think one of the key battles here is when Voldemort kills Snape... it's a lot worse in the book, Voldemort drags out the time, saying that Snape is his most trusted servant, has done the most to help Voldemort, Voldemort would always bring his most troublesome problems to Snape to fix.And if that's not enough, he put Snape in charge of his "inheritance," the one place he actually revered - Hogwarts.
And then he kills this man without a glance backward - doesn't even stay to see Snape die off, or tell him that "this is for the best." Nope - just tells the snake to attack. Voldemort didn't even trouble to his confidante himself, he let his pet do it.
That moment shows just how irredeemable Tom Riddle really is.
How old is Palpatine when he starts being evil? Just starting with the new triliogy?
Cause Voldemort killed his own family when he was fifteen. He did disturbing things to the kids in the orphanage he lived in from being an infant, to being eleven. And that's not even starting to train his evilness.
Voldemort.... is a bad. Egg.
It's all but stated in ROTS that he was a Sith since he was born.