After in pierced it's flesh...
How often did the teams of two/three die? The Qel-Droma team broke itself apart and were killed individually, but the rest of the Hunt was largely successful. And if metal blades were piercing terentatek flesh, I have a hard time believing a lightsaber wouldn't. I'm not disputing Revan's power or skills, but saying the simple fact he killed them with his lightsaber (if that is indeed what he did) is proof of his amazing saber technique... is confusing. How would you even utilize a saber style against a rancor-sized, semi-sentient, weapon-less creature? It doesn't take a great practitioner in Juyo or Djem So to hit and slice in to an opponent that can't block your blade. If anything, a Jedi would require more Force-fueled reflexes to dodge and maneuver the beast than he/she would a mastery in bladework.
Is what I'm saying clear or is my Russian still a little rusty?
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
After in pierced it's flesh...How often did the teams of two/three die? The Qel-Droma team broke itself apart and were killed individually, but the rest of the Hunt was largely successful. And if metal blades were piercing terentatek flesh, I have a hard time believing a lightsaber wouldn't. I'm not disputing Revan's power or skills, but saying the simple fact he killed them with his lightsaber (if that is indeed what he did) is proof of his amazing saber technique... is confusing. How would you even utilize a saber style against a rancor-sized, semi-sentient, weapon-less creature? It doesn't take a great practitioner in Juyo or Djem So to hit and slice in to an opponent that can't block your blade. If anything, a Jedi would require more Force-fueled reflexes to dodge and maneuver the beast than he/she would a mastery in bladework.
Is what I'm saying clear or is my Russian still a little rusty?
Your Russian? U min’A plOha s rUskim
I agree with what your saying. It seems fighting a terentatek would involve draining Force powers to continuously dodge the beast. And as Stealth Moose stated, a terentatek seems to have an excellent defensive hide, meaning both the quantity and quality (the areas of weakness where a lightsaber would easily penetrate the hide) of lightsaber strikes matter (since the terentatek is highly resistant to Force attacks).
In which case, I guess that reflects Revan's raw Force strength (and maneuverability), since he had had enough energy to overcome two terentateks.
Your right that saber styles may not play a heavy part in this battle. However, to land frequent, precise strikes on such a creature should mandate skilled bladework, IMO.
But overall, I think you bring up a good point and I mostly agree with what you have said.
Si, Señor. Russian. Fly.
Exactly. A redeemed Jedi Revan successfully resisting both the innate Darkness of two terentateks, inside the tomb of a Sith Lord that featured a Dark Side-imbued Star Map, in the Valley of the Dark Lords, on Korriban, surrounded by Sith... is testament to Revan's mental fortitude and Force prowess rather than his bladework.
Has it ever been stated in a source that the terentatek's hide was resistant, or at least semi-resistant to lightsabers? I know of no reason to assume it is other than jumping the gun because of the terentatek's intended purpose and nature. Like saying that Grievous was resistant to lightsabers because he killed many Jedi--doesn't make sense.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Si, Señor. Russian. Fly.Exactly. A redeemed Jedi Revan successfully resisting both the innate Darkness of two terentateks, inside the tomb of a Sith Lord that featured a Dark Side-imbued Star Map, in the Valley of the Dark Lords, on Korriban, surrounded by Sith... is testament to Revan's mental fortitude and Force prowess rather than his bladework.
Has it ever been stated in a source that the terentatek's hide was resistant, or at least semi-resistant to lightsabers? I know of no reason to assume it is other than jumping the gun because of the terentatek's intended purpose and nature. Like saying that Grievous was resistant to lightsabers because he killed many Jedi--doesn't make sense.
Wow, I completely forgot the setting of where Revan fought the two terentateks. I agree again, though I would say that the battle is a testament to both his mental fortitude/Force prowess and skill with the lightsaber, though moreso to his Force strength.
To your second point. Well Bacca's Ceremonial Blade was broken at the hilt when Rothrrawr swung it at the terentatek. And swords seem to break through energy shields and able to parry against lightsabers, indicating that it must take something quite strong to be able to break one.
Originally posted by Korto VosI'm hesitant to use that as a statistic. Bacca's makeshift sword was made out of a crashed ships' hull--where he got the cortosis weave and the upgrade slots is a mystery best explained by non-canon game mechanics.
Wow, I completely forgot the setting of where Revan fought the two terentateks. I agree again, though I would say that the battle is a testament to both his mental fortitude/Force prowess and skill with the lightsaber, though moreso to his Force strength.To your second point. Well Bacca's Ceremonial Blade was broken at the hilt when Rothrrawr swung it at the terentatek. And swords seem to break through energy shields and able to parry against lightsabers, indicating that it must take something quite strong to be able to break one.
Honestly, a Wookiee lodging a homemade blade in to the hide of a creature--up to the hilt--is still nothing compared to the cutting power of a lightsaber blade.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I'm hesitant to use that as a statistic. Bacca's makeshift sword was made out of a crashed ships' hull--where he got the cortosis weave and the upgrade slots is a mystery best explained by non-canon game mechanics.Honestly, a Wookiee lodging a homemade blade in to the hide of a creature--up to the hilt--is still nothing compared to the cutting power of a lightsaber blade.
Ya, it's not great evidence. I wouldn't go so far as to say that the hide of a terentatek is resistant to lightsaber blows. (that would just make these beasts overpowered, anyway). Still, Bacca's sword was a powerful item, and the fact that the impact of the weapon into the tarentatek caused the blade to break indicates a strong hide.
Also, if we assume that the terentatek were formed by Sith perversion of rancors, we can consider the hide of a rancor, which is said to "slough off blaster bolts as little more than annoyances."
EDIT: So we could assume the Sith perfected the rancor into greater Jedi killing machines, effectively enhancing the hide to be even more resistant. This is all speculation, of course.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
At least until Revan is released and sheds some poorly written light. [/B]
Can't wait because the author himself said Revan's getting a nerf. Thank the Lord. I like the character but other people ruined it for me.
Here's the quote...
To put it bluntly, Revan in the book will not be the uber-powered death machine you controlled at the end of the video game. You might have min-maxed your character to smack Darth Malak down in seconds without breaking a sweat, but in a book that battle would have been a brutal, hard fought affair spread over multiple pages. In a video game it’s fun to kill hundreds of Sith Masters, but in a book that would just be boring. It would suck out any drama or conflict or tension, and as an author I have no interest in writing that.Now, I suspect some of you are already getting worked up about how I’m ruining SW canon by nerfing the Revan from the game. Well, tough. The game was a game – the powers and abilities you had in it were ways to make the game fun. They were representative of Revan’s power level versus enemies faced in the game, but they weren’t a blueprint of his abilities in the persistent fiction of the Star Wars universe.
Originally posted by Korto Vos
Didn't I post that in the previous page lol? But thanks for providing the link.
Lol mefail. my bad. And anyways I lost taste in Revan when patrolling the official TOR forums and seeing how many people argue about him without using facts. Yeah that happens to every character but it happened to Revan the most. And I was like well every idiot is flocking to Revan over here...
Not saying you're an idiot because you're not but sheesh the TOR forums are brutal.
Originally posted by Toshi
Lol mefail. my bad. And anyways I lost taste in Revan when patrolling the official TOR forums and seeing how many people argue about him without using facts. Yeah that happens to every character but it happened to Revan the most. And I was like well every idiot is flocking to Revan over here...Not saying you're an idiot because you're not but sheesh the TOR forums are brutal.
Well I was on hiatus from these forums until recently, but years ago, when I first joined, there was this huge idolatry for all these Ancient/Old Republic Sith and Jedi that caused some posters to make ridiculous statements like, "Sadow rapestomps Yoda." And during that time, there was major d-ridin on Revan. I admit, I prolly argued stuff that wasn't definitive about him, but after returning, I realized that there are only few things we can determine about him.
EDIT: I think most of the people on these forums are aware of this as well