Odin vs King Thor

Started by quanchi1125 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm glad my reasoning was a sufficient enough for you.
You haven't convinced me as in a direct comparison to the destroyer Thor vastly outperformed Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You haven't convinced me as in a direct comparison to the destroyer Thor vastly outperformed Odin.

That's all well and good.

I'm telling you Odin wins and that's what would most likely happen. You can chose to accept it or not. I couldn't care less.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's all well and good.

I'm telling you Odin wins and that's what would most likely happen. You can chose to accept it or not. I couldn't care less.

Odin wouldn't win though and you have to look at this fairly.

Originally posted by quanchi112
In the limited time we saw Thor he was a force and beheading the destroyer armor with one hammer toss is something even Odin himself would be envious over.

Not really, seeing as how he was only able to achieve it with the '...righteous power of Odin...knows no bounds...', previously when he was using his own strengths he was unable to best desak/destroyer. this statement alone implies that Odin is in a different class altogether.

Originally posted by khalidax
Not really, seeing as how he was only able to achieve it with the '...righteous power of Odin...knows no bounds...', previously when he was using his own strengths he was unable to best desak/destroyer. this statement alone implies that Odin is in a different class altogether.
No, it was still the odinpower until another writer termed it the thor power in his current series. Both characters wield the same power but choose to use it differently. Odin doesn't wield Thor's hammer so he isn't capable of this.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin wouldn't win though and you have to look at this fairly.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You can chose to accept it or not. I couldn't care less.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I hate it when you don't even put up a fight anymore. This new I can't wait to concede rage needs to leave town.

Not really sure you know the definition of concede.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not really sure you know the definition of concede.
I just hope you locate your backbone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just hope you locate your backbone.

'we cannot lean on strength alone. In these times , we must act with wisdom! I must seek the wisdom of Odin, for it was my fathers greatest strength!' -king thor

I believe Odin's experience and wisdom wins him this fight. Odin has many strengths, if this is his greatest, and since king thor lacks this, i don't see how KT can compete. He is unable to best Odin.

He lacks the knowledge of how to use his magical abilities, all the millions of spells Odin must know! Strength alone is not enough.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it was still the odinpower until another writer termed it the thor power in his current series. Both characters wield the same power but choose to use it differently. Odin doesn't wield Thor's hammer so he isn't capable of this.

There's some ambiguity to whether it's the same power that is just passed down over generations, or a different power source(?) completely.

Bor still had his power, yet recognized the odinpower, meaning each generation had a unique 'power'.

whereas in the comic you mentioned, it's just one type of power, passed down, eg odinpower becomes thorpower.

so you're saying he can't do the same with gungir? Odin made mjolnir for gods sake, ofc he's capable.

Originally posted by khalidax
'we cannot lean on strength alone. In these times , we must act with wisdom! I must seek the wisdom of Odin, for it was my fathers greatest strength!' -king thor

I believe Odin's experience and wisdom wins him this fight. Odin has many strengths, if this is his greatest, and since king thor lacks this, i don't see how KT can compete. He is unable to best Odin.

He lacks the knowledge of how to use his magical abilities, all the millions of spells Odin must know! Strength alone is not enough.

Strength can win this fight and will win this fight. Thor needed to grow as a character and did by the end of the arc.
Originally posted by khalidax
There's some ambiguity to whether it's the same power that is just passed down over generations, or a different power source(?) completely.

Bor still had his power, yet recognized the odinpower, meaning each generation had a unique 'power'.

whereas in the comic you mentioned, it's just one type of power, passed down, eg odinpower becomes thorpower.

so you're saying he can't do the same with gungir? Odin made mjolnir for gods sake, ofc he's capable.

Different writers handling this probably define it differently as well.

Odin has never shown capable of destroying the destroyer in the same manner as King Thor did here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just hope you locate your backbone.

😂

Originally posted by khalidax
There's some ambiguity to whether it's the same power that is just passed down over generations, or a different power source(?) completely.

Bor still had his power, yet recognized the odinpower, meaning each generation had a unique 'power'.

whereas in the comic you mentioned, it's just one type of power, passed down, eg odinpower becomes thorpower.

so you're saying he can't do the same with gungir? Odin made mjolnir for gods sake, ofc he's capable.

For some reason i see more than wisdom discerning the outcome of this battle

KT (the character who lost an arm to wolverine) doesn't have enough feats to compare against Odin's mountain of feats. He has one impressive feat, which came out of nowhere, previously he was losing the fight, 2v1!, then all of a sudden, using the 'righteous power of Odin' he was able to pull some PIS. You need to have several feats to establish a general power level, and sadly KT only has the one, therefore that feat seems like PIS to me.

I also see odin removing thors ability to wield mjolnir. Severely weakening him, and as we know, thor does not have the enchanting knowledge to pick it up again.

Originally posted by khalidax
KT (the character who lost an arm to wolverine) doesn't have enough feats to compare against Odin's mountain of feats. He has one impressive feat, which came out of nowhere, previously he was losing the fight, 2v1!, then all of a sudden, using the 'righteous power of Odin' he was able to pull some PIS. You need to have several feats to establish a general power level, and sadly KT only has the one, therefore that feat seems like PIS to me.

I also see odin removing thors ability to wield mjolnir. Severely weakening him, and as we know, thor does not have the enchanting knowledge to pick it up again.

One correction, it wasn't Wolverine who took off KT arm, it was the Hulk and Thing fight.

And while he was reduced to classic Thor levels due to the Odinforce being siphoned away.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin wins.

Based on what evidence have you reached the conclusion that Odin is millions to billions of years old?

Because the universe is only billions of years old and Odin is older than a million years. Thus Odin
is from millions to billions of years old.

In fairness, Odin should be able to beat Destroyer with ease just by unchanting it. Odin has feats of chanting and unchanting things with mere gestures. So it would be Odin vs. King Thor (without Mjolnir).

Originally posted by vansonbee
One correction, it wasn't Wolverine who took off KT arm, it was the Hulk and Thing fight.

We don't know that. Thor's arm was bleeding badly and he was holding it. It is possible that Thing and Hulk finished what Logan started though...