Originally posted by h1a8Holy shit use paragraphs when you write posts. Just a big wall of text that I'm not going to try and break up
This writing was a waist of time since I argued "Even if it were..." Logically you are suppose to attack that argument and not the first. Thor threw some decent punches at Thanos, but nothing substantial with the hammer though. So we are suppose to assume that Magus was using the full power of the gauntlet against Thanos when clearly Thanos wasn't destroyed and we have Magus trying to get Thanos to admit something? Thanos didn't have a helmet on to gently crack. But yes Thanos did falter (was affected) from the punch but not as much as Nova did. So that would mean Thanos blunt force durability could be a little higher. Now know that the punch on Thanos was downward and thus giving him the ability to retaliate quicker than if the punch was thrown at the same angle it was on Nova. In conclusion, you proven that Thanos has at least slightly better punch durability than Nova does. But this has nothing to do with Thanos strength, which is a different story. I already argued that it is possible to consciously limit what you draw from the gems while still being mad. Also, if Thanos wasn't destroyed then Magus wasn't using anywhere near the full power of the gems. That's just common sense. So it makes sense that Magus was holding back and only wanting to torment Thanos. The sad thing is I don't see how I defeated myself. Completely cutting yourself off from an aspect has nothing to do with limiting how much power you draw from another aspect. Otherwise you are telling me it is impossible to not hit with all the force of the IG if you are mad. I disagree due to Magus narrative and the fact Thanos wasn't destroyed. Thor doesn't hit the hardest of all the heralds, he can't shatter a planet with a blow like some other heralds can. Magus with the IG is above Sentry or Thor but his punches on Thanos were not above theirs necessarily.
Don't lie to me. You argued that everyone was fighting dumb and it doesn't count. Then in an attempt to cover your ass you said that if they weren't fighting dumb, that Thanos didn't take good hits.
I covered both of those, and attacked you. No "waist" of time there. Actually, there was a waste of time since I'm talking to a wall right now
We're supposed to assume Magus greatly weakened himself because Thanos didn't die? I mean, that's your only real reason really. Keep spamming "HE WERE WAITING ON ADMISSION THOUGH!" like it means anything. Like it ever meant anything anywhere.
How in the hell did Thanos falter? The guy was holding Mar-Vell up, screamed at him, and released a blast. He got punched in the face and nothing happened.
lol at Thanos blunt force durablity being a little bit higher than Nova's. You really have no idea what you're talking about at all times. We could be discussing lamps, and you'd try and tell everyone that they cause black holes.
Also lol at downward force causing you to retaliate quicker. Downward force like that would have caused him to turn a little and spin his head out of the way leaving him nowhere close for a counter attack if it did anything at all, maybe an overhand actually. With the type of punch he threw at Nova, a counter attack could have been a hook, which is a much better option.
Also lol at you ignoring Magus throwing haymakers at Thanos to the back of his head if you're going to bring up "downward force" punches.
Ya, you argued that you can limit yourself while mad, but what you didn't do, was do it successfully.
So let me get this straight, it not only basically never happened if Magus was limiting himself because we don't know how strong it was, but it also never happened if Magus was at full power? So it never happened either way? Oh this is rich. Thanos isn't allowed feats according to you, he can't have the Magus feat, and he can't have the WM Thor feat... and the only reason why is because it goes against your theories (and my, what theories they are). I get you don't like getting proven wrong, but this is a little ridiculous, of course Thanos has no blunt force feats when everyone is going to get taken away
I thought the "no bias claims" rule was in effect on this forum.
Of course you don't see how you defeated yourself. You have no qualms about being a hypocrite. It doesn't effect you.
But just because, I might as well explain what you did.
You said we can't add or subtract what happened. Yet, your argument is that Magus (although never stated) was holding back or Magus (although never stated) was limiting the gems. You went directly against what you said when you added in things that never happened on panel. Even a 6 and a half year old down syndrome kid can see the hypocrisy.
No, Thor has never shattered a planet. But no other herald has cracked Celestial armor, or cracked Galactus armor.
Right, Magus wasn't hitting as hard as Sentry or Thor... did you miss the whole part where you just said Thanos actually limiting himself smashed Cap's shield and you said this was "off the chain"? Thanos stating he is limiting himself > Magus never stating he's limiting himself?
Originally posted by h1a8So you admit any Hulk is hard to determine and to compare power levels because we just don't know exactly just have to go with the writer's intent.
Hulk is variable and not constant. Namor overpowered an extremely angry Hulk. So is Namor>Hulk?Professor Hulk is a very weak Hulk. Banner limits him more than the other Hulks. Also neck muscles aren't the same as arm and chest muscles. Plus we have the same Hulk restraining Thanos. Also we have Thor restraining Thanos (but isn't some Hulks stronger than Thor?).
So your faulty logic is that overpowering a specific Hulk at any given time is equivalent to proving you are stronger than all Hulks that ever lived prior. This is stupid.
Grabbing two people and slamming their heads together shows you are vastly stronger than both. Of course you won't understand this but I am used to this from you by now.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you admit any Hulk is hard to determine and to compare power levels because we just don't know exactly just have to go with the writer's intent.Grabbing two people and slamming their heads together shows you are vastly stronger than both. Of course you won't understand this but I am used to this from you by now.
Yes and restraining someone physically also shows that you are stronger than them. 🙄
Originally posted by carver9I don't care where it was stated. The proof is in the pudding.
What makes you say that? Especially since it was stated at least 7 times that WWH is the most powerful incarnations of the Hulks?
Onslaught Hulk is number one by far then comes War Hulk who had Celestial amping which overridden Juggs unstoppable enchantment.
WWH couldn't stop Juggs at all, so how can't be greater than War Hulk.
