Originally posted by CPT Space BombHP DD can ko Thanos in a matter of seconds. There is nothing Thanos can do to Doomsday here. And by the way, a KO is easier to get than a kill.
I didn't say Thanos would be Ko'd. I was just stating that he cannot be killed. Doomsday doesn't have the power to ko Thanos. He caught Darkseid off guard, and IIRC that's been retconned anyway.
DD vs. Darkseid wasn't retconned away. DD would have torn him up the same way after the first hit. Didn't matter if it was off guard.
Originally posted by h1a8Lol, no. Thanos has taken shots from much, much more powerful characters.
HP DD can ko Thanos in a matter of seconds.
There is nothing Thanos can do to Doomsday here. And by the way, a KO is easier to get than a kill.There is PLENTY he can do. If Bfr were allowed, he'd win outright. But since it's not, he's not going to Kill this version of DD. But DD can't kill him. Not since it's an arena fight and he's ready for it.
DD vs. Darkseid wasn't retconned away. DD would have torn him up the same way after the first hit. Didn't matter if it was off guard.I'll have to look into it, as I thought something about that encounter was retconned. In any event, Thanos> Darkseid and would not be ko'd so easily.
Originally posted by Diesldude😂 are you seriously saying Doomsday adapting power is>>>>>to the power give by death herself, gtfo.
H/P Doomsday adapts, can find weakness, disrupt energy beings (radiant) via brute strenght? how? just by jumping through him? How? does he have other powers? He should be able to disrupts thanos' unkillable ability and kill him permanently.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombWith the exception of Magus with the IG who wasn't trying to ko Thanos, no he hasn't. Plus you are thinking of taking a shot and not being koed means that you can withstand a complete onslaught by DD.
Lol, no. Thanos has taken shots from much, much more powerful characters.
Sure Thanos would be able to take a couple of hits, but not many more after that.
There is PLENTY he can do. If Bfr were allowed, he'd win outright. But since it's not, he's not going to Kill this version of DD. But DD can't kill him. Not since it's an arena fight and he's ready for it.Again you are slow to remember. I said a ko is a win. Who cares about a kill? And why bring up Bfr when it isn't allowed here? But you know that Thanos can't bfr DD anyway right?
IMO Darkseid>>>Thanos or at least equal.
I'll have to look into it, as I thought something about that encounter was retconned. In any event, Thanos> Darkseid and would not be ko'd so easily.
Originally posted by h1a8 With the exception of Magus with the IG who wasn't trying to ko Thanos, no he hasn't.Yes he has. If you are comparing HP Doomsday to IG level of power, you're not worth debating. No amount of counter argument will sway your mind. Thor with the PG, who was wrecking everyone he was fighting, is > HP Doomsday. And Thanos took Thor's blows with relative ease. HP Doomsday wasn't that impressive physically. Superman would have beat him. It's just his DEFENSIVE ability to adapt that makes him particularly nasty. This is the ONLY reason Thanos cannot do more than stalemate without BFR.
Plus you are thinking of taking a shot and not being koed means that you can withstand a complete onslaught by DD.No, Thanos is a skilled enough fighter to not just sit there and get beat on. It's not his fault DS doesn't know how to fight without his Omega beams.
Sure Thanos would be able to take a couple of hits, but not many more after that.Seeing as how Thanos has taken hits from Magus, Thor with the PG, Hulk, etc etc, I'd argue with you there.
Again you are slow to remember. I said a ko is a win. Who cares about a kill?No, you're slow to remember that I said Thanos wouldn't be ko'd.
PC Darkseid was perhaps more powerful, but current levels no way. Thanos > Darkseid atm.
IMO Darkseid>>>Thanos or at least equal.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombYou need to learn to comprehend better. I didn't imply that HP DD can hit harder than Magus with the IG. I said that Magus purposely hit Thanos not as hard just to coerce him (he didn't want to ko him).
Yes he has. If you are comparing HP Doomsday to IG level of power, you're not worth debating. No amount of counter argument will sway your mind.
It is not the outcome of a battle that determines your strength it is the how you won the battle that can determine it. They fought Thor stupid as the reason why he beat them. It had nothing to do with him being stronger. If a normal Thor applied the same hits we would get the same outcome.
Thor with the PG, who was wrecking everyone he was fighting, is > HP Doomsday. And Thanos took Thor's blows with relative ease.
Superman was highly amped in that fight and still outclassed. DD easily and effortlessly broke Superman's arm against Clark's own strength. That's an insane feat right there. Also we have DD sending a claw completely through Superman as he is made out of liquid.
HP Doomsday wasn't that impressive physically. Superman would have beat him. It's just his DEFENSIVE ability to adapt that makes him particularly nasty.
DD is super fast and can combo Thanos to ko before Thanos can flinch.
This is the ONLY reason Thanos cannot do more than stalemate without BFR. No, Thanos is a skilled enough fighter to not just sit there and get beat on. It's not his fault DS doesn't know how to fight without his Omega beams.
Discussed the Magus incident above. Thor with PG didn't hit Thanos with slams as he did Surfer and the others. PG Thor wasn't more than 2x as strong as his normal self. So the feat is only decent and not great. Also know that by feats Superman is far stronger than Thor. That means a 2x Thor would still be weaker. And since DD is a lot stronger than Superman he would be a lot stronger than PG Thor as well. And Darkseid>>>>Thanos in every category except energy projection durability.Seeing as how Thanos has taken hits from Magus, Thor with the PG, Hulk, etc etc, I'd argue with you there. No, you're slow to remember that I said Thanos wouldn't be ko'd.
PC Darkseid was perhaps more powerful, but current levels no way. Thanos > Darkseid atm.
Originally posted by h1a8Um, NO? lol. Thor with the Powergem has unlimited power/stamina. Sure Doc Strange could have fought better, but he still would have been more than a match. The powergem amps you infinitely. It taps into the power of the Marvel universe.
It is not the outcome of a battle that determines your strength it is the how you won the battle that can determine it. They fought Thor stupid as the reason why he beat them. It had nothing to do with him being stronger.
If a normal Thor applied the same hits we would get the same outcome.Unlikely. Normal Thor would not have performed as well against BRB.
Superman was highly amped in that fight and still outclassed. DD easily and effortlessly broke Superman's arm against Clark's own strength. That's an insane feat right there. Also we have DD sending a claw completely through Superman as he is made out of liquid.Superman would have been able to beat Doomsday in H/P if DD didn't have that idiotic adaptation. That was what made him impossible for Superman to beat. Yes he was amped, but he beat DD once before, and would have again. The adaptation is what makes this DD so op.
DD is super fast and can combo Thanos to ko before Thanos can flinch.LOL! Thanos has beaten Surfer like a stepchild EVERY SINGLE TIME they've fought. Darkseid cannot say the same about Superman. Thanos is a very skilled fighter and has never been beaten like you're suggesting would happen.
Discussed the Magus incident above. Thor with PG didn't hit Thanos with slams as he did Surfer and the others.? Are you serious? Again, your definition of slam needs to be re-thought.
PG Thor wasn't more than 2x as strong as his normal self. So the feat is only decent and not great.That's debatable at best.
Also know that by feats Superman is far stronger than Thor. That means a 2x Thor would still be weaker.Not true. Thor is just below Superman in strength. Unless he gets his belt at which point he's stronger, or at least as strong.
And since DD is a lot stronger than Superman he would be a lot stronger than PG Thor as well.DD was not alot stronger than Superman. Alot of Superman's failing in H/P was he was scared of DD because of the first fight and didn't fight intelligently until the end. I'd say he was around Superman's strength, maybe a bit stronger. He was just more ruthless.
And Darkseid>>>>Thanos in every category except energy projection durability.Not even close to true. Darkseid has jobbed way more than Thanos, and as I said earlier, he gets punked by Superman way more than Thanos to Surfer. Thanos > Darkseid.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombYou are mistaken. The PG doesn't amp you infinitely. This is the dumbest thing you said. In Thor's case, he wasn't even amped beyond 2x.
Um, NO? lol. Thor with the Powergem has unlimited power/stamina. Sure Doc Strange could have fought better, but he still would have been more than a match. The powergem amps you infinitely. It taps into the power of the Marvel universe.
Unlikely. Normal Thor would not have performed as well against BRB.
Irrelevant! If Thor landed the same blows on BRB then the outcome would have been the same.
Superman would have been able to beat Doomsday in H/P if DD didn't have that idiotic adaptation. That was what made him impossible for Superman to beat. Yes he was amped, but he beat DD once before, and would have again. The adaptation is what makes this DD so op.
You need to reread hunter prey again. DD adapted beyond Superman's power to kill. Superman killed him once so Superman knew he couldn't do it again without help. That is why he had a mother box and was amped. HP DD was far stronger than DOS DD and Superman was far stronger than DOS Superman as well. An amped Superman barely escaped with his life against DD.
LOL! Thanos has beaten Surfer like a stepchild EVERY SINGLE TIME they've fought. Darkseid cannot say the same about Superman. Thanos is a very skilled fighter and has never been beaten like you're suggesting would happen.
Beating a character not using their speed doesn't prove you can beat the character if they did use their speed. You are new here so you must learn that it is possible for outcomes to battles that happened in comics to be meaningless. If Thanos hits Surfer while Surfer is not using his top speed then we can't assume he will hit DD if DD is using his top speed. This is common sense.
You don't know much about Thor do you? Those hits were not slams with the hammer. Thor is also known to slam down on his victim. Reread the arc and you will see a big difference in the way he hit Surfer to ko him and the way he hit Thanos.
? Are you serious? Again, your definition of slam needs to be re-thought.
No it isn't. If there is no evidence of something in comics then it doesn't exist. There is no evidence that Thor was more than twice as strong.
That's debatable at best.
Not true. Thor is just below Superman in strength. Unless he gets his belt at which point he's stronger, or at least as strong.
I can show you quantifiable feats with their calculations to prove that Superman is capable of exerting more than 50 Earth weights of force. Thor has never shown to exert one Earth weight of force.
No. Imagine I have your arm and you are using all your strength to get control of it yet I easily overpower your force (I'm stronger) and then have even more power to break it (far stronger).
DD was not alot stronger than Superman. Alot of Superman's failing in H/P was he was scared of DD because of the first fight and didn't fight intelligently until the end.
I'd say he was around Superman's strength, maybe a bit stronger. He was just more ruthless.
Not even close to true. Darkseid has jobbed way more than Thanos, and as I said earlier, he gets punked by Superman way more than Thanos to Surfer. Thanos > Darkseid.Superman in one of those most powerful non Skyfather level beings in the D.C. universe. He has greater than skyfather level strength. Darkseid is a legit Skyfather in D.C.
Superman beating on Darkseid isn't jobbing. Superman is super fast and super power with his blows.