Lets take a look at the shots he's taken which are WAY more powerful than anything DD can produce... He has taken hits from Magus with the IG... there is ZERO proof he wasn't trying to KO him or even kill him. In fact, Magus was shown hitting somebody else prior and it killed them in one hit... Thanos is just that strong.... He has taken hits from PG Thor and multiple hits at that with a smile on face... Mind you, a thor who just got done wrecking a bunch of high heralds with ease... Thor didn't JUST get the PG when he fought Thanos.. he had it for awhile prior to that and was gaining more and more power.. In fact, it was said he would become a threat to the Universe. He took MULTIPLE shots from his own doppleganger who was more powerful than Thanos... These weren't just normal punches these were amped thanos specials.. and he took them just fine... He took shots from Dp Tyrant and was never close to KO'd. He's taken shots from Hulk and Drax just to name a few to no effect. Lets us consider.... Odin Ko'd surfer and drax in one shot WITH EASE. Odin could NEVER KO thanos after multiple blasts and PHYSICAL BLOWS.... Thanos would take DD's blows just fine
Originally posted by h1a8No, this is the dumbest thing You've said. The power gem: Accesses all power and energy that ever has or will exist, and can back the other gems and boost their effects. Allows the user to duplicate almost any physical superhuman ability and become invincible.
[B]You are mistaken. The PG doesn't amp you infinitely. This is the dumbest thing you said. In Thor's case, he wasn't even amped beyond 2x.
Again, misbegotten speculation. You have no proof. If anything, BRB has had a slight advantage in past fights against Thor. Again, you don't know much about what you're saying.
Irrelevant! If Thor landed the same blows on BRB then the outcome would have been the same.
This is what I've been saying. Sad it has taken you this long to finally reach that conclusion.
You need to reread hunter prey again. DD adapted beyond Superman's power to kill.
No, I'm not new. I used to post in these vs forums. Surfer is faster than Doomsday in flight, and has fought at superspeed. There is no reason (going off of your ill-conceived logic) that Surfer would fight any slower against someone as powerful as Thanos. I can make wild speculations too, it doesn't mean I'm right.
Beating a character not using their speed doesn't prove you can beat the character if they did use their speed. You are new here so you must learn that it is possible for outcomes to battles that happened in comics to be meaningless.
This is common sense.Nothing with you is common "sense" Anyone who states Thanos would be ko'd before he can flinch is someone who is lacking greatly in the latter.
You don't know much about Thor do you?LOL!? First of all, you never specified slams with the hammer only. You only said he wasn't slamming Thanos. I know more about Thor than you do I'm sure, as you don't seem to know much about anything past "lol dd speedblitzes and beats everyone lol"
Those hits were not slams with the hammer. Thor is also known to slam down on his victim.Again, you're conveniently re-wording your slam statement here...
Reread the arc and you will see a big difference in the way he hit Surfer to ko him and the way he hit Thanos.Perhaps you should read more Thor if you think he wasn't being amped greatly by the power gem.
No it isn't. If there is no evidence of something in comics then it doesn't exist. There is no evidence that Thor was more than twice as strong.It's a good thing we have people like you who can make up speculations and claim them as fact. Thank God.
I can show you quantifiable feats with their calculations to prove that Superman is capable of exerting more than 50 Earth weights of force. Thor has never shown to exert one Earth weight of force.Thor's fight with Superman in JLAvengers; Thor fights like an idiot and barely loses. He didn't use any magic, just fought off pure strength, and Superman barely won. That is all the evidence I need, but I could also go on listing Thor strength feats as well.
Darkseid is a legit Skyfather in D.C.Darkseid is technically a skyfather level being, but he's still under Thanos and Odin.
Again, one of the dumber things you've said. Superman beating Darkseid IS jobbing for DS. He as a skyfather as you say, has no business losing to someone with Superman's powerset. A true skyfather should only lose to other skyfathers and above in power. The fact DS continually jobs to Superman is why most people put Thanos above DS.
Superman beating on Darkseid isn't jobbing. Superman is super fast and super power with his blows.
Originally posted by CPT Space BombIt's not about what's been said but what's been shown. Many characters had access to the PG yet they had limited power. If Thor had infinite power then it wouldn't have took him so long to bust out of Thanos force block. Thor would have disintegrated anyone with his strikes. Thor would not have been affected in the slightest with any attacks on him. Champion would have busted Thanos shields in one blow. I can go on forever. Thus this is the reason why that was the stupidiest thing you said.
No, this is the dumbest thing You've said. The power gem: Accesses all power and energy that ever has or will exist, and can back the other gems and boost their effects. Allows the user to duplicate almost any physical superhuman ability and become invincible.
The proof lies in Thor's past fights. The same blows on Surfer in the past did the same thing. Thor's hits on Gladiator did the same thing. Thor busted Celestial armor, etc.
Again, misbegotten speculation. You have no proof. If anything, BRB has had a slight advantage in past fights against Thor. Again, you don't know much about what you're saying.
DD was also stronger. Offensive is defense.
This is what I've been saying. Sad it has taken you this long to finally reach that conclusion.
First of all it takes time for Surfer to reach fantastic speeds. He must accelerate to those speeds in flight. Also flight speed is not battle speed. Lastly, welcome to comics, the land where characters don't always use their abilities as shown before. Hulk tagging Surfer doesn't mean Hulk is faster than light. You must read the forum rules on full capacity dude. [/b][/quote]
No, I'm not new. I used to post in these vs forums. Surfer is faster than Doomsday in flight, and has fought at superspeed. There is no reason (going off of your ill-conceived logic) that Surfer would fight any slower against someone as powerful as Thanos. I can make wild speculations too, it doesn't mean I'm right.
If a character can move far faster than another character then that means the faster can move 5ft before the slower moves 1 inch. That means the slower one has no defense. [quote][b]Nothing with you is common "sense" Anyone who states Thanos would be ko'd before he can flinch is someone who is lacking greatly in the latter.
LOL!? First of all, you never specified slams with the hammer only. You only said he wasn't slamming Thanos. I know more about Thor than you do I'm sure, as you don't seem to know much about anything past "lol dd speedblitzes and beats everyone lol"Again, you're conveniently re-wording your slam statement here...Perhaps you should read more Thor if you think he wasn't being amped greatly by the power gem.It's a good thing we have people like you who can make up speculations and claim them as fact. Thank God.You should know a Thor slam is more powerful than a jab like swing where Thor's hand is high up on the hammer (choking up for accuracy).
JLAvengers is not usable on this forum by the rules of the moderation.Thor's fight with Superman in JLAvengers; Thor fights like an idiot and barely loses. He didn't use any magic, just fought off pure strength, and Superman barely won.
That is all the evidence I need, but I could also go on listing Thor strength feats as well. Darkseid is technically a skyfather level being, but he's still under Thanos and Odin.That's silly logic. A skyfather can lose to a human if the circumstances are right. There are always exceptions to the rule. Only a bad debator doesn't know this.
Again, one of the dumber things you've said. Superman beating Darkseid IS jobbing for DS. He as a skyfather as you say, has no business losing to someone with Superman's powerset. Any further arguments on that case shall be ignored from you. My opinion is a skyfather only loses to other skyfather level beings, at least not all the time.
PG Thor wasn't more than 2x as strong as his normal self. So the feat is only decent and not great. Also know that by feats Superman is far stronger than Thor. That means a 2x Thor would still be weaker. And since DD is a lot stronger than Superman he would be a lot stronger than PG Thor as well. And Darkseid>>>>Thanos in every category except energy projection durability. [/B][/QUOTE]
I have seen you post this before. Where do you get this 2X strength number?
Originally posted by zeel [quote=originally posted by Iah8]
PG Thor wasn't more than 2x as strong as his normal self. So the feat is only decent and not great. Also know that by feats Superman is far stronger than Thor. That means a 2x Thor would still be weaker. And since DD is a lot stronger than Superman he would be a lot stronger than PG Thor as well. And Darkseid>>>>Thanos in every category except energy projection durability.
Originally posted by zeel
PG Thor wasn't more than 2x as strong as his normal self. So the feat is only decent and not great. Also know that by feats Superman is far stronger than Thor. That means a 2x Thor would still be weaker. And since DD is a lot stronger than Superman he would be a lot stronger than PG Thor as well. And Darkseid>>>>Thanos in every category except energy projection durability.
It's an upper bound. For example, I can say that Thanos is not more than 10000000x stronger than Thor. Who cares where I get the 10000000 from? It's irrelevant. All that matters is if I speak the truth.
I have seen you post this before. Where do you get this 2X strength number?
Originally posted by CPT Space BombHe doesn't know, he apparently makes up whatever rules he wants and uses them as fact. Then he dismisses anyone else who dares question his lunacy. The fact that he believes Thanos is getting ko'd faster than he can think nullifies any logic he might further produce. [/B][/QUOTE] I didn't say Thanos is getting koed faster than he can think. I said if DD uses his top speed on Thanos then Thanos wouldn't be able to make an action before DD hits him.
I have seen you post this before. Where do you get this 2X strength number?
The process of being koed may take seconds up to minutes.
Originally posted by h1a8 It's an upper bound. For example, I can say that Thanos is not more than 10000000x stronger than Thor. Who cares where I get the 10000000 from? It's irrelevant. All that matters is if I speak the truth.If only we were so lucky. I think the truth waved "bye-bye" to you a long time ago.
Anyways, at this point I'll agree to disagree. you think what you want, I'll think what I want. Obviously neither of us are budging.
Originally posted by Naija boy
^Oh no here we go with this adapt on the fly nonsense again. Did anyone ever actually read Hunter prey? The only "adaptation on the fly" he did was to shoot some bone spurts and cover his ears. How this translates to auto adaptation winning....is still a mystery. Seriously...smh
Of course I read HP; did you read it!?
Or perhaps your memory is not very good; HP Doomsday immediately adapted to Waveriders attempt to shut his nervous system down and turned the attack back on him...inaddition to his other adaptions on the fly, that makes 3 in one arc...not good enough for you?
Of course it isnt...afterall, Thanos cant possibly lose to HP Doomsday...can he?