Darth Caedus vs. Exar Kun

Started by Deronn_solo8 pages

There is also the physical advantage Jacen sport such as superior speed, durability, and pain tolerance.. Even with one arm and a gaping hole in his gut, he was able to stalemate one of the most powerful and skilled Jedi in the history of the mythos.

Not really something I see Exar replicating, tbh.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Telekinesis - Kun hasn't shown really any Force defense. He was even TKed by said ancient Jedi librarian.

Force Lightning - Not Caedus' strong point, but it was capable of harming the likes of Jaina Solo or Vergere.

Lightsabers - Caedus is a more skilled and accomplished duelist than Kun, having challenged Skywalker himself.

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Telekinesis- Odan urr did no damage to Kun with that force attack and im sure if Kun had no force defense it would have ripped him to shreds. Kun has broken through the force barriers of Jedi Master's.

Lightsabers - I disagree Caedus's technique is nothing Kun hasn't seen before where as Kun's weapon and technique is completely alien to Caedus. Caedus may have challenged Skywalker but if that fight had continued Skywalker would have whooped Caedus.

Force Lightning: Jaina and Vergeare are not on the same level as Kun and im sure Kun could defend against it where as as i Have said I dont think Caedus could defend himself against the Sith Amulet if Fredon Nadd couldn't.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Lmfao, no he didn't.

Wall of Light doesn't throw someone back.

Yeah, he did.

Wrong:

The power Odan-Urr tried to teach Nomi was Wall of Light, chuckles.

Caedus cannot take Kun he has nothing Kun hasn't seen before whereas Kun's abilities are completely alien to Caedus.

@Nephthys:
No... he didn't. I know what you are referring to, no bombs were remotely near him.

Yeah. He pushes him with Telekinesis then tries to use Wall of Light. I never denied that.
I denied he only used Wall of Light, which is silly since we explicitly see him use Telekinesis.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
@Nephthys:
No... he didn't. I know what you are referring to, no bombs were remotely near him.

Yeah. He pushes him with Telekinesis then tries to use Wall of Light. I never denied that.
I denied he only used Wall of Light, which is silly since we explicitly see him use Telekinesis.

Think you're wrong there. It states he's untouched by fire and shrapnel, both of which indicate explosions.

Theres no "then", the text states he's using one attack and we see him using it. Theres only one panel with Kun flying back, and no indication of two attacks. Wall of Light can firebomb planets, it's not outlandish to think it pushes someone back when we see it happen.

He could be untouched because no bombs hit him, which is entirely the point. 😬 He could just be using his senses to navigate the battlefield.

If it pushes Kun, it's also a display of Telekinesis. 👆 A Wall of Light is a shimmering Force barrier that encloses on someone, not pushes them out.

Good comeback?

I was editing my post since you edited yours.

Just saying, but Kun's amulets did blast through the Massassi temple walls, which withstood full power turbolaser shots from an Executor class star destroyer. However, that particular instance portrayed the Turbolasers being crap, only causing forest fires lol.

It's a good fight, but Caedus wins.

Originally posted by Imperial Knight
Caedus cannot take Kun he has nothing Kun hasn't seen before whereas Kun's abilities are completely alien to Caedus.

You must have been stoned when you typed this.

Originally posted by Trocity
You must have been stoned when you typed this.

Caedus has never seen the type of abilities Kun uses like his amulet and he has never seen a lightsaber as unique as Kun's before.

Yeah, but Caedus has more raw power than him. Like, wayyyyyyy more. Caedus's shields were speculated to take on entire fleets of capital starships.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Yeah, but Caedus has more raw power than him. Like, wayyyyyyy more. Caedus's shields were speculated to take on entire fleets of capital starships.

Perhaps but you don't need to have the most raw power to be viable in a contest and I think Kun's abilities are more practical than Caedus's and do not forget that Kun still has an insane amount of raw power.

Originally posted by Imperial Knight
Caedus has never seen the type of abilities Kun uses like his amulet and he has never seen a lightsaber as unique as Kun's before.

Kun has never seen the esoteric abilities Caedus possesses.

And against someone as skilled as Caedus, someone who was taking on groups of Vong Slayers wielding amphistaffs as a teenager, and later on as a duelist in the same tier as Luke/Yoda/Sidious, Kun's lightsaber isn't going to be the unpredictable advantage it was against the combatants from his era.

Originally posted by Trocity
Kun has never seen the esoteric abilities Caedus possesses.

And against someone as skilled as Caedus, someone who was taking on groups of Vong Slayers wielding amphistaffs as a teenager, and later on as a duelist in the same tier as Luke/Yoda/Sidious, Kun's lightsaber isn't going to be the unpredictable advantage it was against the combatants from his era.

Kun may never have seen some of Caedus's more unique abilities but I dont think Caedus's techniques are actually that efficient in combat and don't forget Mara Jade would have killed Caedus if he hadn't projected that image of Ben Skywalker just as she was about to strike him down. I also disagree with you about Kun's saber as I don't think it is anything like any other double bladed saber in the way its used and I think that will catch Caedus off guard just as it did the Jedi of Kun's era.

No, I would never forget the fight where Mara had multiple advantages going into the fight but still died.

Show me a character approaching Caedus' level that was caught off guard by Kun's lightsaber. Because none are shown on panel losing due to the unpredictability of his saber, so I doubt you will find any at all, let alone a high level combatant.

Originally posted by Trocity
No, I would never forget the fight where Mara had multiple advantages going into the fight but still died.

Show me a character approaching Caedus' level that was caught off guard by Kun's lightsaber. Because none are shown on panel losing due to the unpredictability of his saber, so I doubt you will find any at all, let alone a high level combatant.

I'd say Vodo-Siosk Bass would defiantly be able to at least compete with Caedus, at least in a lightsaber duel after all he was the battle master of the day and in their fight up until Kun ignited the other end of his saber the fight was fairly even but once Kun did ignite the other end of the saber Bass was caught off guard and cut down. And also while Mara ambushed him in space once they were on the ground Caedus was ready for her and only won because he cast that illusion of Ben just before Mara was about to kill him.

Vodo didn't get cut down via being caught off guard and I'm not going through the Mara fight all over again; if you think she's a legitimate challenge to Caedus in a neutral ground setting, you're wrong, simple as that.