Darth Caedus vs. Exar Kun

Started by lord starkiller8 pages

for me i think cadeus has a great chance becasue of his abilites and exars amulets are kinda gay he would probly kill exar in a saber duel and his force abilites are almost the same compared to exars amulets so i give it to cadeus 6/10

She's killed Krath War droids, Massassi warriors and Hssiss beats, and fought against Basalisk war droids, all of which are a threat to jedi-level opponents. She's a notable duelist and is skilled enough in the force to deflect blasterfire with her bare hand, an advanced technique in the Force. She also went balistic at one point and single-handedly destroyed a colony of Kiltlik's, a species of enormous bugs that would frequently reduce entire parts of the planet of Cathar barren.

Note: The other jedi with her just freaks out while she butchers the entire nest. He doesn't do anything in that fight.

Do you have evidence that ANY of the above ever killed a Jedi. Ever?

Originally posted by truejedi
Do you have evidence that ANY of the above ever killed a Jedi. Ever?

The KOTOR campaign guide mentions that Basalisk war droids regularly killed groups of Jedi in the Mandalorian Wars.

And that bug is fvcking huge... and she wasted the lot of them.

Well the Krath war droids as you should know did in fact kill a ****ton of Jedi in the comic when they attacked a Jedi assemply of Ten Thousand Jedi Masters and Knights. It was they who killed Arca Jeth.

I trust I don't need to tell you about the Massassi. They are of course highly force sensitive and led the charge against the Jedi throneworld of Ossus.

Hssis are, again, highly force sensitive as well as simply being extremely physically powerful and hardy, so much so that blasterfire simply bounces off them as so:

Basilisk War Droids are mother****ing Basilisk War Droids. Of course they've killed Jedi.

And lastly the above picture speaks for itself. Note that there are hundreds of Kiltiks in that picture, which doesn't do them credit. Each one is this big:

to be honest, one of them looks that big, and the rest look way smaller.... : / Otherwise, good points. ; )

Well said, Neph. Ulic does not get any credit around here.

Originally posted by Korto Vos
Kun was quite formidable with the lightsaber. He was probably the best duelist of his time, likely better than Qel-Droma too.

To clarify, Kun and Ulic are explicitly equals in combat, neither able to overcome the other. But in terms of Force power, Marka Ragnos named Kun as more powerful. This is likely because of both his natural talent (which Vodo mentions and Arca Jeth) and his amulets.

The amulets may "seem" like a one-trick pony, but considering their universal buffing effect, it makes Kun potentially head and shoulders above most if not all non-buffed Force users. Exponential increase in power is unreal.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
To clarify, Kun and Ulic are explicitly equals in combat, neither able to overcome the other. But in terms of Force power, Marka Ragnos named Kun as more powerful. This is likely because of both his natural talent (which Vodo mentions and Arca Jeth) and his amulets.

The amulets may "seem" like a one-trick pony, but considering their universal buffing effect, it makes Kun potentially head and shoulders above most if not all non-buffed Force users. Exponential increase in power is unreal.

Hmm, I would argue that the duel was short-lived to the extent that it's not definitive to state Kun = Qel-Droma in lightsabers. I think had the duel been to the death, Kun's stronger Force power would have given him the edge in lightsaber combat to prevail in that contest.

Actually I believe the narration stated that they were so evenly match that the duel could continue for hours with no clear superior.

However, the duel did take place before Exar Kun created his dual-bladed saber. I'd be inclined to state that had he used this saber he would have been victorious.

It's hard to say that he would have been more skilled with the double-bladed lightsaber, considering he'd only had I believe around six months practise with the weapon next to his entire life's training with his previous style, though it certainly possesses the unorthodox element that may tip the scales. Ulic was also injured quite badly at the time IIRC.

and marka ragnos could simply be wrong about who was more powerful in the force...

No he couldn't. That's a ridiculous point to argue.

Uliq's always felt like the Forgotten Jedi/Sith.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Uliq's always felt like the Forgotten Jedi/Sith.

He's quite powerful.

I can see him being in the Top 10 of a Jedi or Sith list.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Actually I believe the narration stated that they were so evenly match that the duel could continue for hours with no clear superior.

^ This.

It's conceivable that Kun could have done better six months later, but I doubt the jump would be that much. Ulic was a legendary duelist, more experienced than Kun, though Kun's Force powers gave him the edge to counter that.

As far as lightsaber dueling goes I think that Kun will be able to suss out a patern in Caedus's technique and be able to break through his defense and even if Caedus begins to press Kun, Kun will just switch to another method and catch Caedus off guard. For example if Caedus can capably defend against Kun when Kun is using one lightsaber, Kun will just ignite the other end of his saber staff and because Kun's saber staff is so unique I think its safe to say Caedus will have never seen anything like it and wont be able to defend against it.

With Force abilities whilst both Sith are incredibly skilled, I think Kun is better because whilst Caedus's skill is considerable I am certain Kun will be able to defend against his lightning and as for telekinesis Kun has been shown to be able to penetrate the force shields of Jedi Master's with ease (for example Odan Urr) so I think he could penetrate Caedus's force shield to and if Kun has his Sith amulet as well as all this then I think Caedus will be almost certainly over whelmed by Kun.

Overall I think this is a fairly easy win for Exar Kun. I give Kun a 9/10 chance of taking down Caedus.

Originally posted by Imperial Knight
As far as lightsaber dueling goes I think that Kun will be able to suss out a patern in Caedus's technique and be able to break through his defense and even if Caedus begins to press Kun, Kun will just switch to another method and catch Caedus off guard. For example if Caedus can capably defend against Kun when Kun is using one lightsaber, Kun will just ignite the other end of his saber staff and because Kun's saber staff is so unique I think its safe to say Caedus will have never seen anything like it and wont be able to defend against it.

With Force abilities whilst both Sith are incredibly skilled, I think Kun is better because whilst Caedus's skill is considerable I am certain Kun will be able to defend against his lightning and as for telekinesis Kun has been shown to be able to penetrate the force shields of Jedi Master's with ease (for example Odan Urr) so I think he could penetrate Caedus's force shield to and if Kun has his Sith amulet as well as all this then I think Caedus will be almost certainly over whelmed by Kun.

Overall I think this is a fairly easy win for Exar Kun. I give Kun a 9/10 chance of taking down Caedus.

The post legit gave me AIDS.

I had to re-evaluate life after reading that, Kun isn't winning this easily, or at all for that matter. Caedus wins solidly.

Great Sylvar feat though, new TOTJ wank material.