Wolverine vs Beta Ray Bill

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah and Thor's not bullet proof, Darkseid got koed by some thugs with a chain, and Dracula got beat up by a mountain goat. Are you going to abide by the forum rules, or is there any more examples of PIS you would like to cite and pretend matter?

Let's illustrate by having me speak in your simplistic retardspeak to counter your inane reasoning so you can relate better to our stance: Beta Ray Bill can survive the Sun. Wolverine does not have more destructive power than the Sun. Wolverine loses. Dur dur. Zomg, don't try to convince me Wolverine is more powerful than the Sun. God, you're so dumb. What? No! No, I'm not trying to pigeon-hole this fight into an irrelevant ABC comparison. Just prove Wolverine > the Sun, dummy. No, I'm right, you're wrong. BRB constantly and routinely survives stellar events like planetary explosions, blackholes and stars. So, no. Try and tell me BRB doesn't do all that. Zomg, you don't know anything about BRB. trololololll

There's a reason your arguments aren't taken seriously. But if you want a serious response as has already been given to you, let's repeat it: You'll just have to accept that Wolverine only managed to kitty-scratch Thor. He'll kitty-scratch BRB, assuming BRB has the patience to try to talk him down, before getting rage stomped. And since BRB won't care about using lightning, he'll just pound Wolverine repeatedly like this:

And then the ground will be as Wolverine sh1t-stained as your arguments are. It's the reasonable conclusion, after all.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Shit, as of now, Fraction's crazy Thor would probably attempt to outright murder Logan.

I wish biscuits

This isn't a good fight for Wolverine. Bill wins.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Oh of course, Wolverine hurting a herald-level Superman foe like Nefaria is not PIS but getting trashed by an elite street level foe is PIS. How predictably droll. Also hilarious that you try to analogize Darkseid getting beaten up by street thugs with Wolverine getting his sh1t kicked in by Mr. X. 😂 And if you really want to talk about following forum rules, enough with your trolling. Just because people have gotten used to it, doesn't make it any less trollish.

Let's illustrate by having me speak in your simplistic retardspeak to counter your inane reasoning so you can relate better to our stance: Beta Ray Bill can survive the Sun. Wolverine does not have more destructive power than the Sun. Wolverine loses. Dur dur. Zomg, don't try to convince me Wolverine is more powerful than the Sun. God, you're so dumb. What? No! No, I'm not trying to pigeon-hole this fight into an irrelevant ABC comparison. Just prove Wolverine > the Sun, dummy. No, I'm right, you're wrong. BRB constantly and routinely survives stellar events like planetary explosions, blackholes and stars. So, no. Try and tell me BRB doesn't do all that. Zomg, you don't know anything about BRB. trololololll

There's a reason your arguments aren't taken seriously. But if you want a serious response as has already been given to you, let's repeat it: You'll just have to accept that Wolverine only managed to kitty-scratch Thor. He'll kitty-scratch BRB, assuming BRB has the patience to try to talk him down, before getting rage stomped. And since BRB won't care about using lightning, he'll just pound Wolverine repeatedly like this:

And then the ground will be as Wolverine sh1t-stained as your arguments are. It's the reasonable conclusion, after all.

Beta Ray Bills ability to survive the sun is irrelevant. We all know he has insane durability, but Wolverine's claws allow him to bypass said durability. Biologically Bill's body functions more or less the same as a humans. He has organs. He has blood. He has muscles and tendons. All those things do same job as they do on a human. Being able to survive in a star doesn't change the fact that if his spinal cord is severed he will be unable to move. Or if a major artery is severed he will bleed out. On a forum match Wolverine won't be limited to the indirect glancing blows that still managed to cut Thor, but will be landing flush, direct blows with the intend of maiming and killing. Wolverine is faster then bill and more skilled, he will hit him first, he will hit him more frequently, his attacks will do more damage then the attacks Bill lands, and Wolverine will heal from those attacks back to 100% while any damage Bill sustains will stack.

Not sure why I try reasoning with you, being as you are one of the here-to-fore mentioned idiots that is unable to comprehend that Wolverine's healing factor and claws is essentially substitute power-set for the standard durability / super strength brick archetype, that has historically allowed him to accomplish the same type of feats... only your worse then them because you also think Captain America can take the majority from Wolverine.

^ In a forum match Wolverine will be limited to kitty-scratches because that's all he's managed when fighting Thor on-panel with his top tier durability. He didn't even come close to decapitating Nefaria with his high durability, or severing his spinal cord, or any sort of one-shot kill on him (and that was with a free ambush even). Same with any Hulk that isn't gray. Deathverine even required Savage Hulk's own momentum to be able to actually make a wound deep enough to hurt him gravely. Wolverine didn't do crap against Gladiator either. Or pre-Void Sentry. Or Skaar. Or Wonder Man for that matter. So much for that legendary fairy-tale one-shot kill strike on a top tier durability foe.

As Wolverine cannot survive planet-busting attacks, he'll get ko'ed by BRB's attacks. Especially when he gets one-shotted by Savage Hulk. On-panel. Especially since he can get pummeled by street levelers into unconsciousness. On-panel. WWH punches? Irrelevant. If those had missed and gone into the ground, they would not have busted the planet. Not even close to WWH's or BRB's true strength attacks.

BRB wins. You want dumbed down Wolverithmetics-style debating? Fine. If it floats your boat, it sinks it too.

Though Wolverine can be koed by MA and Herald level characters (and Bambi) it shouldn't be so easy. And if BRB can only use Stormbreaker as a melee weapon only (blocking and attacking) I can see him doing slightly better then Thor. 'Cause as already mentioned, he is a Cyborg and his vital parts might be not where Logan should expect them to be. The Trauma of losing an arm shouldn't be that bad and he will still fight. I guess 5/10

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ In a forum match Wolverine will be limited to kitty-scratches because that's all he's managed when fighting Thor on-panel with his top tier durability. He didn't even come close to decapitating Nefaria with his high durability, or severing his spinal cord, or any sort of one-shot kill on him (and that was with a free ambush even). Same with any Hulk that isn't gray. Deathverine even required Savage Hulk's own momentum to be able to actually make a wound deep enough to hurt him gravely. Wolverine didn't do crap against Gladiator either. Or Skaar. Or Wonder Man for that matter. So much for that legendary fairy-tale one-shot kill strike on a top tier durability foe.

As Wolverine cannot survive planet-busting attacks, he'll get ko'ed by BRB's attacks. Especially when he gets one-shotted by Savage Hulk. On-panel. Especially since he can get pummeled by street levelers into unconsciousness. On-panel.

BRB wins. You want dumbed down Wolverithmetics-style debating? Fine. If it floats your boat, it sinks it too.

In a forum match Wolverine would carve up Bill like a Thanks Giving Turkey since he won't be limited to landing only glancing blows. Nefaria is a being of ionic energy, he doesn't have standard human biology. Wolverine carved him up and injured him but it would be impossible for him to kill Nef. Bill isn't in that same boat, he has more or less human biology. Wolverine only landed glancing blows on Thor for the same reason he does on Captain America, or Daredevil, or Punisher do. It has nothing to do with durability, it's because if Wolverine landed flush he would kill him and end the fight instantly. When Wolverine fights a character who is capable of surviving his blows, he lands them impunity. Thanos and Count Nef have greater durability then Thor, and Wolverine had no trouble cutting the up. There are no plot devices to save Thor (or Bill) on KMC, Wolverine isn't prevented from landing flush blows on the forum just because it would kill his opponent. Logan would have no trouble cutting Bill up, and I'm not sure why you think Thor crying from Wolverine's glancing blows suggest otherwise.

Wolverine frequently takes haymakers from Hulk, who is a planet buster. So... yeah.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
In a forum match Wolverine would carve up Bill like a Thanks Giving Turkey since he won't be limited to landing only glancing blows. Nefaria is a being of ionic energy, he doesn't have standard human biology.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine carved him up and injured him but it would be impossible for him to kill Nef. Bill isn't in that same boat, he has more or less human biology. Wolverine only landed glancing blows on Thor for the same reason he does on Captain America, or Daredevil, or Punisher do. It has nothing to do with durability, it's because if Wolverine landed flush he would kill him and end the fight instantly. When Wolverine fights a character who is capable of surviving his blows, he lands them impunity. Thanos and Count Nef have greater durability then Thor, and Wolverine had no trouble cutting the up. There are no plot devices to save Thor (or Bill) on KMC, Wolverine isn't prevented from landing flush blows on the forum just because it would kill his opponent. Logan would have no trouble cutting Bill up, and I'm not sure why you think Thor crying from Wolverine's glancing blows suggest otherwise.

You have no proof. Just an incessant whining about IDLI, IDH that you're trying to brand plot-device to explain away why you have no proof that Wolverine can easily one-shot these top tier beings ina fight. There's no plot device, it's called top tier durability and foes not permitting Wolverine to do whatever the hell he wants. We read "thick Asgardian skin," and you somehow conjure up "editorial mandate." There's no conspiracy at work here that robs you of proof. There's just your delusional need for proof and an inescapable void that you fill with fanciful theories of Wolverine jobbing to high heralds.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine frequently takes haymakers from Hulk, who is a planet buster. So... yeah.

In the meantime, try lowering your expectations and hope for Wolverine cleanly beating Daredevil, or Mr. X, or Spider-Man, or X-23 first before trying to bring him into BRB's class.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If you didn't want to be reminded about how Wolverine cut him and how WM was unable to ko Logan even with a cheap shot ambush, you shouldn't have brought him up. 😎

That scan is indeed a pathetic showing but not by Wolverine. A Cl100 being sneak attacks and speed blitzes Wolverine and all he is is dazed! One bop to the head by Maxam and Simon is KTFO! 😆

PS When did Wolverine cut Simon?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
What you call Wolverine landing one-shot killing blows, we call kitty-scratches. Nefaria isn't any more durable than Thor or BRB.

Thor went through the trouble of blocking two of Wolverine's attacks because they were "kitty scratches" or because they'd fug him up? Thor was bleeding profusely and holding his side because Wolverine "kitty scratched" him? 🙄

Originally posted by zopzop
Thor went through the trouble of blocking two of Wolverine's attacks because they were "kitty scratches" or because they'd fug him up? Thor was bleeding profusely and holding his side because Wolverine "kitty scratched" him?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thor blocks bullets. He doesn't have to. Superman catches bullets and has dodged Batman's fist. He doesn't have to. But I see its hard for you to think and jerk off to Galactus sweat drops at the same time. So I forgive you.

Nice dodge. What about the "kitty scratch" on his side that was bleeding profusely and that he clutched in pain?

ODG vs Srank is almost deserving its own forum heading lol!

Originally posted by zopzop
Nice dodge. What about the "kitty scratch" on his side that was bleeding profusely and that he clutched in pain?

I imagine if a kitty raked its claws at you, you'd try to block it and when it connected on your side and drew blood and welts you'd touch it gingerly too and note with internal monologuing, "his strikes failed to do any significant damage due to the thickness of my pasty skin... also, I need to jerk to Galactus sweat drops forthwith."

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You mean the one Wolverine caused with "strikes failed to do any significant damage due to the thickness of my asgardian skin"? Those?

I imagine if a kitty raked its claws at you, you'd try to block it and when it connected on your side and drew blood and welts you'd touch it gingerly too and note with internal monologuing, "his strikes failed to do any significant damage due to the thickness of my pasty skin... also, I need to jerk to Galactus sweat drops forthwith."

Yeah failed to do any damage. That's why he was bleeding profusely and clutching his side (from your own respect thread):
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsWolverine04.jpg

logan looked like he was snapping out of his daze in the last panel of that wonder man scan....in what looked like mere seconds; a sneak attack speed blitz of five punches doesn't work so WM he picks up a rock? wtf!? Fail. this makes WM look like weak sauce while logan takes that beating like a boss.

anyway, logan has shown enough strength to deeply cut Thanos & leave him bleeding with his BONE claws; add adamantium & it's no wonder he was able to seriously wound thor & defeat hercules during contest of champions 2. or cut open & defeat grey hulk. or nearly destroy green hulk when logan was a horseman of apocalypse. logan spared green hulk during that fight. logan took massive punches from WW hulk while Ares was KOed with one hit. so ya, it isn't unreasonable to think logan has a chance against brb.

logan likely loses a majority, but he could potentially claw out a stalemate if he fights like he has never fought before & can evade a KO blow from brb's hammer. it's unlikely, but brb could lose a majority through attrition & logan's superior evasiveness/quickness.

the notion that strength/durability (so long as it's SUPER ZOMG! teh awesomw class 1000+ teh bor + thor =pwnage oompa!!) wins out over a unique power set like logan's is tiresome. sometimes a character has the tools to defeat another character....regardless of how ridiculously strong/durable that character is.

Bill SMASH!!!

In Coc II he didn't have adamantium.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In Coc II he didn't have adamantium.

cool, that's even better; he must of won due to his improved HF. his HF is just as good now though.

Originally posted by wildernesss
cool, that's even better; he must of won due to his improved HF. his HF is just as good now though.

Either that or his speed/agility/skills were too much for Herc. He was in berserker rage then.