PIS vs PIS....

Started by Nihilist3 pages
Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by zopzop
But there MUST be some sort of hierarchy in place otherwise what's the point? The discussions on this forum become pointless. The "Relative Strengths and Powers" scan from Thor Annual 14 was fine.

It went from lowest to highest :

Gods
Special Gods
Trans Tier (Mangog, etc...)
Cube Beings/Skyfathers/Ego?/Galactus
Celestials
Special Celestials
Abstracts
Living Tribunal

But now you have power levels that vary depending on writer. LordofMurder's Galactus example hit the nail on the head. One minute he's the last man standing (Aegis dead, Teneberous and the Celestials AWOL) vs the Galactus Engine, next minute he's in a sweaty stalemate vs Odin.

And the "internet and message boards weren't around back then" excuse doesn't hold up because this example is recent.

Of course it holds up the vast majority of them feats are from ages ago, and the Odin/Galactus thing hasnt even ended yet and what esle did you expect ? Odin to get stomped in Thors main book lol

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss
Originally posted by Nihilist
Odin to get stomped in Thors main book lol

What does the comic it takes place in have to do with anything? So if Odin fought the Infinites he'd put up a fight just because it's in Thor's book?

dmills Centurion Prime
Originally posted by zopzop
What does the comic it takes place in have to do with anything? So if Odin fought the Infinites he'd put up a fight just because it's in Thor's book?

😂

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by zopzop
What does the comic it takes place in have to do with anything? So if Odin fought the Infinites he'd put up a fight just because it's in Thor's book?
More often than not yeah, Thats why the heroes/stars of the book rarely get their ass handed to them.

CPT Space Bomb Emperor Doom

Originally posted by zopzop

And the "internet and message boards weren't around back then" excuse doesn't hold up because this example is recent.

As I said earlier, if you looked hard enough, you can find PIS in every comic ever written. The fact is, forums HONESTLY don't matter to writers; not in the Golden Age, or here today. That's the point. I'm sure Fraction doesn't give a damn about what JoEE3454 thinks about his stories.

carver9 Senior Member

People cant say Thor showings are PIS because its consistent enough to be valid for the character... even during Modern times.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by zopzop
What does the comic it takes place in have to do with anything? So if Odin fought the InfinitesGalactus he'd put up a fight just because it's in Thor's book?
It's like you took the words right out of my mouth, zopy.

Nihilist Senior Member

Originally posted by zopzop
What does the comic it takes place in have to do with anything? So if Odin fought the Infinites he'd put up a fight just because it's in Thor's book?
More often than not yeah, it very rare the heros/main stars of the books get stomped.

dmills Centurion Prime
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
As I said earlier, if you looked hard enough, you can find PIS in every comic ever written. The fact is, forums HONESTLY don't matter to writers; not in the Golden Age, or here today. That's the point. I'm sure Fraction doesn't give a damn about what JoEE3454 thinks about his stories.

While its true that vs boards make up a minuscule portion of the readership, forums by far make the most noise and can ruin a writer's rep. Believe me they care. Grant Morrison went on a rant about this not too long ago.

Nowadays a writer better get his/her stuff right or they'll definitely be hearing about it.

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CPT Space Bomb Emperor Doom

Mostly writers only care if they can keep getting a paycheck. As long as their stuff is selling, they'll make money. A few writers have lashed out against forum members, but they are few and far between.

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cdtm Restricted
Originally posted by Nihilist
More often than not yeah, Thats why the heroes/stars of the book rarely get their ass handed to them.

On Alvaro's board, I asked Walter Simonson who he'd have win a fight between Superman and Orion.

His response: Superman if it's in Supermans book, Orion if it's in Orions book.

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dmills Centurion Prime
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Mostly writers only care if they can keep getting a paycheck. As long as their stuff is selling, they'll make money. A few writers have lashed out against forum members, but they are few and far between.

😂 I guess you've never been to Tom Brevoort's formspring. Believe me they see and hear everything. Maybe highly established writers like Fraction care about it less then say, Abnett and Lanning, but believe me these writers are not apathetic.

skinfull Restricted
Originally posted by dmills
😂 I guess you've never been to Tom Brevoort's formspring. Not just lashing out like Grant. Believe me they see and hear everything. Marvel in particular.

Forum Fanboys only download comics for free so why should they care?

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by cdtm
On Alvaro's board, I asked Walter Simonson who he'd have win a fight between Superman and Orion.

His response: Superman if it's in Supermans book, Orion if it's in Orions book.

Ok then ask him who'd win in a fight between Superman and Anti-Monitor.

dmills Centurion Prime
Originally posted by skinfull
More should as forummers are not comic fans, they do not buy comics. They are fans of scan mostly.

Now there's a redundant statement. Not to mention a broad generalization. It's a versus forum and thus scans play a fairly large part in what goes on. However in the general discussion forum scans rarely ever play a serious role. It's just fans talking comics.

dmills Centurion Prime
Originally posted by skinfull
Forum Fanboys only download comics for free so why should they care?

Not doubting that some do, but imho the piracy issue is but a strawman. Comic sales have trended down hard since the 90s, well before broadband became commonplace.

Cogito Senior Member
Originally posted by skinfull
Forum Fanboys only download comics for free so why should they care?

Doesn't matter, they discovered movies are a far more profitable income source anyways.