2012 Republican Presidential Debate

Started by Harbinger11 pages

Originally posted by lord xyz

The other is Israel is the only democracy in the middle east...and them Palestinians are ebul people.
Why is it that everyone forgets that Turkey exists?

Originally posted by Harbinger
Why is it that everyone forgets that Turkey exists?

We always remember on Thanksgiving.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Does anyone here feel that there is not a strong Jewish and pro-Israel lobby in the United States?

I asked my sister why she was so pro-Israel. I don't remember what she said. hmm It wasn't a good reason, iirc.

It wasn't a good reason, iirc.

Is it ever?

Originally posted by Harbinger
Why is it that everyone forgets that Turkey exists?
For political purposes and in its sphere of influence, Turkey has always been considered part of Europe, not Asia. They've also, unfortunately been backsliding into a failed democracy for the last 11 years, hence one of the reasons for major immigration out of there.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
For political purposes and in its sphere of influence, Turkey has always been considered part of Europe, not Asia. They've also, unfortunately been backsliding into a failed democracy for the last 11 years, hence one of the reasons for major immigration out of there.
And the sudden increase of kebab meat in the UK and America.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
For political purposes and in its sphere of influence, Turkey has always been considered part of Europe, not Asia.

Turkey is a border nation, much like Egypt can claim to be part of Africa and the Middle East at the same time and Russia can claim to be part of Europe and Asia so too can Turkey claim dual citizenship so to speak.

Turkey is more an Asian nation than a European nation both culturally and geographically, but due to the long term impact the Ottoman Empire had on European politics and its current role as a NATO member and prospective EU candidate it can be considered a European nation as well.

attaturk made huge changes in the nation to try and bring it closer in line with Europe as well

Re: 2012 Republican Presidential Debate

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Discuss.

More like the 2012 Israeli Presidential debate with all the hand-wringing over Iran and how ISRAELIS CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT AND THEY'RE OUR CLOSEST ALLY. Santorum chimps out on Ron Paul hard toward the end, but Paul stands his ground.

Ugh. Another four years of Bammy or Romney in the White House. We're doomed.

were screwed and there is no hope for the future of the USA or world if Ron Paul does not get in.He is the ONLY candidate who believe in the constituion of the united states and more importantly,not a member of that evil organization the council on foreign relations.which is why I dont expect him to get in.the establishment makes sure you dont get elected if you are not a member.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Republicans are people too, my friend.

ONLY if there name is Ron Paul.The others are monsters just like the democrats except Kucinich but I dont think he is running.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
We are already doom thanks to our President thank goodest this is the last year for him.

Yeah but it wont do no good unless Ron Paul gets in.It will just be someone worse than Obozo.always is.Did not think anybody could possibly be worse than Bushwacker but I should have known better since history shows that from the past 40 years or so.Paul is the only one that is not like the other republicans.I mean the republicrats.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
were screwed ... if Ron Paul does not get in. [Blah, blah, blah] establishment makes sure you dont get elected if you are not a member.

Ron Paul is a silly-billy.

YouTube video

Sources:

"Old News"? "Rehashed for Over a Decade"?
http://reason.com/blog/2008/01/11/old-news-rehashed-for-over-a-d

"LOS ANGELES RACIAL TERRORISM" by Ron Paul
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.african.american/msg/c8668bd3662b0...

Ron Paul on Immigration
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/01/ron_paul_on_immigration.html

Ron Paul Unplugged: Cutting Benefits for Illegal Immigrants
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=3985423

Marque and Reprisal Act of 2007:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.r.03216:

Paul's No Vote on the Darfur Accountability and Divestment Act
-http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll764.xml

"Hands off Sudan!" - Ron Paul
http://paul.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=229&a...

Gulf of Tonkin/Iran:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080202085053/http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/c...

US lawmaker: Bring back private pirate hunters:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jyG7EtPtRN_AdgusdTswFk5JDJuw

Ron Paul: Don't kill bin laden.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/12/ron-paul-ordered-bin-laden-raid/

Ron Paul, Meet the Press Interview - Dec 23, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22342301/#.Tk0h-YJ25HI

Immigration and the Welfare State by Ron Paul (August 9, 2005)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul269.html

Ron Paul on Tax Reform:
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Tax_Reform.htm

Paul defends seeking funding for special projects in district
http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2007_4483248

Ron Paul's $400 Million Earmarks
http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/2007/08/06/ron-pauls-400-million...

Ron Paul on Civil Rights:
http://ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Civil_Rights.htm

The Trouble With the '64 Civil Rights Act by Ron Paul
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul188.html

What does the Bill of Rights Really Mean? by Ron Paul
http://www.ronpaularchive.com/2002/07/what-does-the-first-amendment-really-mean/

Where Is Your Money Going?
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul239.html

Responding to Katrina
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul275.html

Ron Paul on Employee Rights (Part 1): Sexual Harassment-What's the Big Deal?
http://www.calemployeerightsblog.com/2008/01/15/ron-paul-on-employee-rights-p...

Ron Paul on Swine Flu
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/04/ron-paul-swine-flu-federal...

See, though, those are all things that he sees as positive things.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Ron Paul is a silly-billy.

YouTube video


Going down the links:

1. The first portion is not his words. Fact. The second portion was taken out of context.

2. There's absolutely nothing wrong with anything he said, here.

3. Same as above.

4. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this act. Everyone would unanimously agree with this. Were the terrorists attacks NOT an act of war on a sovereign nation?

5. If people knew anything about Ron Paul's positions it's that we spend too much time investing in other nation's business.

6. Same as above.

7. Same as above.

8. If people knew anything about Ron Paul's positions it's that he wants to privatize many of our current "services".

9. He makes excellent points about infringing upon the sovereignty of other nations. Bin Laden was virtually impotent by the time we killed him so it should be no wonder that killing him did not good other than gave right wing Americans warm fuzzies. I still liked to see Bin Laden taken out.

10. I agree with almost everything Ron Paul has stated in this meet the press. Get rid of income tax, drastically cut spending, stop meddling so much in other nations' affairs, etc.

11. Similar to the above.

12. As Paul has indicated before, he has an obligation to his constituents to obtain as much funding for his district as possible. Some like to pretend that this is some sort of contradiction or hypocrisy when applied to his other positions. But that's not true: the US Government was setup for representatives to petition congress for various projects in their respective districts.

13. Same as above.

14. I partially disagree with Paul, here. However, he is also partially correct. As a "libertarian", he would want people to get to exercise their freedoms how they want to which includes getting to discriminate against others. We still get to do this to some extent.

15. He makes it much more clear, here, where he is coming from. I am not exactly sure how much I support forcing people to do anything. If a white man beats a black man, the white man should be punished. If a black man doesn't want white people in his restaurant...I'm not too sure I am for a legal enforcement that forces the black guy to have to serve the white guy. This is a basic "libertarian" concept and borders with anarcho-leanings.

16. Same as the previous 2.

17. I agree with Ron Paul, here. We've waaaaay over used the elastic clause.

18. And there's a problem here?

19. This is the basis of libetarianism. The people will do and can do better than the government. Katrina proved that. My employer and Mormons were there at "ground zero" only 2 days after Katrina did it's thing. Where was the government (fema)? Exactly.

20. I partially agree with Ron Paul, here. In a freer society, an employee AND the employer choose each other. The employee terminating their employment because sexual harassment does not stop would be detrimental to the employer IF they actually were worth anything to the employer. The city and/or state can and would have laws in place to protect the person being harassed. What the writer of that article doesn't realize is sexual harassment is not a single gender issue: obvious bias is obvious. If the harassee is being unlawfully harassed (no federal law should exist governing this, which is Ron Paul's point...it should be municipal and state laws), then they can and should pursue the law in their favor.

21. And there's some how a problem with his words here? Anyone who disagrees with Paul on this particular point is pretty much a complete idiot. Swine Flu was blown way out of proportion and there's plenty of evidence to support that.

As someone who isn't american but (naturally) would be affected in some way by whoever gets elected, I have a question:

How likely is it that Bachmann woman might get elected? Just in general, I mean.

Originally posted by -Pr-
As someone who isn't american but (naturally) would be affected in some way by whoever gets elected, I have a question:

How likely is it that Bachmann woman might get elected? Just in general, I mean.

In 1980, we elected a cowboy actor who was previously thought to be a crazy, dangerous moron by nearly everyone. We did the same thing with a loser who pretended to be from Texas in 2000. Does that answer your question?

Well, she's a woman, so there's that.

Originally posted by Mindset
Well, she's a woman, so there's that.

Right, Americans would rather elect a black guy than a woman.

We're less racist than we are sexist. 🙂

Originally posted by dadudemon
Right, Americans would rather elect a black guy than a woman.

We're less racist than we are sexist. 🙂

👆

No one wants to look like a racist, sexism is still ok.

Don't get me wrong, if Bachmann was 20 years younger and actually had a brain, I would vote for....

Nevermind...I just can't. Even her hotness won't convince meh. weep

Originally posted by dadudemon

2. There's absolutely nothing wrong with anything he said, here.
Kay, that link was supposed to be on an article where Paul goes on and on talking about how Blacks are brought up to be racist against white people, and there are clearly racial undertones in the whole article.

Guess Jewgle strikes again.