Abstracts Vs Skyfathers

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Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I hope Pak never finds work again. Next thing you know he'll have Batman shooting fireworks from his a#$
you know, that story had some decent character development in it despite the absurdity of the feats. banner's dream was a world in which he no longer had to be afraid of his own destructiveness and could release all his bottled up rage at life and all his love/hate for betty living their unbalanced relationship to its extreme without her or anybody else getting hurt. the fantasy of a man who spent his life terrified of himself and his own emotions, now given free reign to indulge himself without consequences or moral preoccupation. that's quite the hulk story, too bad it's been overshadowed by the dimension breaking feats

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb

[b]Yep! [/B]

I promise Zeus don't want any of this (thanks Galan).

Originally posted by Galan007
Worldbreaker:

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Originally posted by 753
you know, that story had some decent character development in it despite the absurdity of the feats. banner's dream was a world in which he no longer had to be afraid of his own destructiveness and could release all his bottled up rage at life and all his love/hate for betty living their unbalanced relationship to its extreme without her or anybody else getting hurt. the fantasy of a man who spent his life terrified of himself and his own emotions, now given free reign to indulge himself without consequences or moral preoccupation. that's quite the hulk story, too bad it's been overshadowed by the dimension breaking feats

I am pretty sure he must have got death threats from Hulk fans after the Zeus fight he had to come back strong plus this is his farewell didnt think it would be quite on this level but yeah.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Yes yes, we already know about that fight, everyone does, but Hulk recently show us his true strength.
His recent showing is impressive, but it still doesn't mask the fact he got his a$# kicked against Zeus, in H2H. Hulk needs to have some kind of showing against a true skyfather to put him in that category. Pak is just trying to leave an un-interesting character for the next Hulk writer that comes along. Like I said, the stupidity of Pak's latest Hulk is actually making me hate the character. It's almost impossible to take seriously anymore.

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Originally posted by zopzop
Seriously? Tyrant destroyed Galactus, Morg with the UN had to step in and save his @$$.
G had already defeated the PC tyrant and G survived the UN blast while tyrant failed to do the same.

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Originally posted by 753
G had already defeated the PC tyrant and G survived the UN blast while tyrant failed to do the same.

Galactus TELEPORTED AWAY! Tyrant took direct UN blasts and it ate through his body.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
His recent showing is impressive, but it still doesn't mask the fact he got his a$# kicked against Zeus, in H2H. Hulk needs to have some kind of showing against a true skyfather to put him in that category. Pak is just trying to leave an un-interesting character for the next Hulk writer that comes along. Like I said, the stupidity of Pak's latest Hulk is actually making me hate the character. It's almost impossible to take seriously anymore.

How can you take that fight serious when you know that Hulk was holding back? It's a good thing that he did hold back because he would have erased Earth during that fight.

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Originally posted by zopzop
Galactus TELEPORTED AWAY! Tyrant took direct UN blasts and it ate through his body.
G shifted his mass into another dimension to escape while Tyrant was obliterated. my point stands

Originally posted by carver9
How can you take that fight serious when you know that Hulk was holding back? It's a good thing that he did hold back because he would have erased Earth during that fight.
First of all, he wasn't holding back. And if he was, then he's a moron because he got his S%$# kicked in. Hulk has never had a feat like this last one in his entire Career. Skyfathers are capable of destroying galaxies on their worst day. Just because Pak wants to give fanboy service to the Hulk fans out there, doesn't mean I have to take it seriously. I know Hulk's history, and this is just lame. I'm not reading Hulk anymore because of it. Hopefully it gets retconned quickly, as it should.

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Originally posted by 753
G shifted his mass into another dimension to escape while Tyrant was obliterated. my point stands

Tyrant was weakened by a UN blast or did you forget that? It had eaten almost all his body. Galactus wasn't shot with the UN. He tped Morg and himself away.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
First of all, he wasn't holding back. And if he was, then he's a moron because he got his S%$# kicked in. Hulk has never had a feat like this last one in his entire Career. Skyfathers are capable of destroying galaxies on their worst day. Just because Pak wants to give fanboy service to the Hulk fans out there, doesn't mean I have to take it seriously. I know Hulk's history, and this is just lame. I'm not reading Hulk anymore because of it. Hopefully it gets retconned quickly, as it should.

Second of all...Hulk outright admitted that he was holding back...even when he went World Breaker. He showed more power after his fight against Sentry vs what he did fighting Zeus and even then he was holding back. Hulk never had a ft like this one because again, he was surpressing his power. He finally had the chance to cut lose and ripped through a dimension while doing it, vaporized high tier beings just by being in their presence.

Zeus didn't fight THAT Hulk, he fought a significantly weaker Hulk and again, Hulk admitted this.

Now stop crying.

@zopzop

I know G never got hit, I'm talking about their resources and battle wits.

so you consider dp tyrant to be above G overall?

Originally posted by 753
I iknow G never got hit, I'm talking about their resources and battle wits.

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Pak is leaving the character. He is giving him a fanboy sendoff. Hulk has never shown this ability because most writers aren't as stupid as Pak. Most writers won't just start making s&$^ up to give a character because they want them to have it. That's like Batman suddenly becoming Superman level strength, and he had it all along. Now, you're probably not stupid enough to believe Batman was Superman's equal in strength for the last 50 years, so for you to take this latest Hulk showing seriously is sad.

It's going to be retconned, you can count on it.

Originally posted by carver9
Second of all...Hulk outright admitted that he was holding back...even when he went World Breaker. He showed more power after his fight against Sentry vs what he did fighting Zeus and even then he was holding back. Hulk never had a ft like this one because again, he was surpressing his power. He finally had the chance to cut lose and ripped through a dimension while doing it, vaporized high tier beings just by being in their presence.

Zeus didn't fight THAT Hulk, he fought a significantly weaker Hulk and again, Hulk admitted this.

Yeah cause god knows that Zeus didn't hold back in that fight at all.I have no problem taking Hulks word that he held back it's cannon.His current feat being great and all until he puts down someone on Zeus levels hell until he fights someone on Zeus's level your arguments are not gonna have much punch.

Originally posted by 753
@zopzop
so you consider dp tyrant to be above G overall?

Yes. It's not like I'm trolling. Did you see Tyrant's respect thread? Galactus was in fear of his life because of Tyrant. Galactus fed on a world that he said made him more powerful than he's been in years and he STILL lost vs Tyrant.

Tyrant gets his power from the biosphere of every planet in the UNIVERSE (that includes biospheric energy that has been metabolized into other forms of energy like the Power Cosmic) PLUS anything he's leeched off his victims and stored in his Power Orbs.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Pak is leaving the character. He is giving him a fanboy sendoff. Hulk has never shown this ability because most writers aren't as stupid as Pak. Most writers won't just start making s&$^ up to give a character because they want them to have it. That's like Batman suddenly becoming Superman level strength, and he had it all along. Now, you're probably not stupid enough to believe Batman was Superman's equal in strength for the last 50 years, so for you to take this latest Hulk showing seriously is sad.

It's going to be retconned, you can count on it.

but hulk, unlike batman, has unlimited strengh amping potential. this has been a well established characteristic of the charater for a very long time, it's part of his powerset. it's nto that hulk had that strengh all along, but that he never allowed himself to get that far emotionally. sure, the feats are cheesy and absurd, but there was decent characterization behind them.

doubt they will retcon it. they'll just bring his rage down as he wont flip out like that in the regular 616 reality.

and even if no author would ever have batman become stronger than superman, think on all the ones who have and would write him beating superman. "batman will find a way" is a lot like "the madder hulk gets the stronger he gets"

Abstracts for the win.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Yeah cause god knows that Zeus didn't hold back in that fight at all.I have no problem taking Hulks word that he held back it's cannon.His current feat being great and all until he puts down someone on Zeus levels hell until he fights someone on Zeus's level your arguments are not gonna have much punch.

Both was holding back. I never said Zeus wasn't but I do know for sure Hulk was as well and Hulk shrugging off punches from elite tier/trans level beings pretty much put him in the skyfather tier...especially when we have Hulk punching Zeus through a stadium before the fight started. That punch wouldn't have did anything to Hulk at his levels now.