Abstracts Vs Skyfathers

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Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Pak is leaving the character. He is giving him a fanboy sendoff. Hulk has never shown this ability because most writers aren't as stupid as Pak. Most writers won't just start making s&$^ up to give a character because they want them to have it. That's like Batman suddenly becoming Superman level strength, and he had it all along. Now, you're probably not stupid enough to believe Batman was Superman's equal in strength for the last 50 years, so for you to take this latest Hulk showing seriously is sad.

It's going to be retconned, you can count on it.

It hurt doesn't oit? Makes you feel like you want slap Pak for making Hulk this powerful.

Deal with it.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is pretty much physically a skyfather. I don't see why he isn't.

Because he half destroyed a planet?
Come on now.

Surfer has destroyed a planet with a simple blast before.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because he half destroyed a planet?
Come on now.

Surfer has destroyed a planet with a simple blast before.

Because trans tier beings couldn't make him budge or feel pain. Because trans tier beings turned to dust just being around his presence. He doesn't need to bust anything to be a skyfather, those feats alone puts him at skyfather. Let's not forget that he thunderclapped so hard that he destroyed a dimensional barrier that held back an entire race called the Mindless One. A race of beings that gave Dormammu and Classic Strange fits.

Originally posted by carver9
A race of beings that gave Dormammu and Classic Strange fits.

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I'd love to see a rematch between Zeus and Hulk now.

Originally posted by zopzop
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I'd love to see a rematch between Zeus and Hulk now.

He Would still win but Hulk would give him a much better fight probably the fight his fans thought it would be the first time around.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
He Would still win but Hulk would give him a much better fight probably the fight his fans thought it would be the first time around.

I think he would win as well but I also think it would be a awesome fight and Zeus is going to be bruised up badly when its done.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
He Would still win but Hulk would give him a much better fight probably the fight his fans thought it would be the first time around.
I wonder about that. 😑 Zeus might be utterly destroyed taking in H2H again, the only way I see him winning, is using his magical abilities.
Originally posted by 753
you know, that story had some decent character development in it despite the absurdity of the feats. banner's dream was a world in which he no longer had to be afraid of his own destructiveness and could release all his bottled up rage at life and all his love/hate for betty living their unbalanced relationship to its extreme without her or anybody else getting hurt. the fantasy of a man who spent his life terrified of himself and his own emotions, now given free reign to indulge himself without consequences or moral preoccupation. that's quite the hulk story, too bad it's been overshadowed by the dimension breaking feats
Too deep for his forum man.

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Originally posted by carver9
I think he would win as well but I also think it would be a awesome fight and Zeus is going to be bruised up badly when its done.

It would have to be somewhere else to really showcase the destruction and level of power that's why Pak is so free to showcase what Hulk is capable of in the Dark Dimension.

Originally posted by vansonbee
I wonder about that. 😑 Zeus might be utterly destroyed taking in H2H again, the only way I see him winning, is using his magical abilities.
Too deep for his forum man.

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I dont think he would I agree with Carver that by the end of it he might be in anywhere from bruised up to pretty bad shape but he would come out on top.

This will be closer than I'd wager most people would care to admit. Anyways, Team 1. At least until we see most of the Serpent.

people do realize that hulk was amped when he fought zeus..he absorbed power from.rulk who had,surfer,thor, the watcher powers stored in him
IIRC

Re: Abstracts Vs Skyfathers

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Abstracts

Galactus
DP Tyrant
Inbetweener (no summons)
Stranger
Ego

Skyfathers

Odin
Zeus
Seth
The Serpent
Current Hulk (no worthy)

IMO
Odin=Galactus
Zeus(as recently written by pak)=DP Tyrant
Seth=Inbetweener (no summons)
The Serpent>> Stranger
Hulk>EGO

Originally posted by carver9
Because trans tier beings couldn't make him budge or feel pain. Because trans tier beings turned to dust just being around his presence. He doesn't need to bust anything to be a skyfather, those feats alone puts him at skyfather. Let's not forget that he thunderclapped so hard that he destroyed a dimensional barrier that held back an entire race called the Mindless One. A race of beings that gave Dormammu and Classic Strange fits.

What trans tier being was turned to dust when that planet blew up?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
people do realize that hulk was amped when he fought zeus..he absorbed power from.rulk who had,surfer,thor, the watcher powers stored in him
IIRC

Even though I admit that Zeus would defeat Hulk, Hulk was pretty much in a calm state when he fought Zeus and during the beginning he was trying to reason with him. Hulk was still powerful though which makes it a awesome showing for Zeus but THIS Hulk is completely different than any Hulk that walked Earth...this Hulk is a complete powerhouse. It would be a Galaxy destroying fight if they met but eventually Hulk would lose. I just cant picture Hulk defeating high skyfathers like Zeus and Odin...no matter how powerful he is physically.

Now if Dormammu shows up and Hulk runs through him...Zeus dies.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
What trans tier being was turned to dust when that planet blew up?

A Wendigo that was amped a 1000 folds.
A Bi-Beast that was amped a 1000 folds.
A amped Armaggedon as well.

Let's remember, Wendigo alone without th amp has stalemated Savage Hulk who is clearly physically High Herald.

Lets remember, Bi-Beast did the same thing.

Them being to those insane levels would have them in either trans or skyfather levels physically and they couldnt even budge Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
It hurt doesn't oit? Makes you feel like you want slap Pak for making Hulk this powerful.

Deal with it.

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No, I assure you it doesn't hurt. Seeing Hulk become powerful doesn't annoy me. It's HOW he becomes powerful that annoys me. Bad writing annoys me. I haven't followed Hulk as much since they turned Ross into Rulk, and Betty into SheRulk...the stupidity keeps coming.... Now this?

By the way, Hulk needs to beat a skyfather, or at least stalemate a skyfather to get mentioned on that level. Next time, he shouldn't hold back... 😆

And where is this galaxy thing coming from? He only destroyed a planet and that was due to him clashing with another Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
A Wendigo that was amped a 1000 folds.
A Bi-Beast that was amped a 1000 folds.
A amped Armaggedon as well.

Let's remember, Wendigo alone without th amp has stalemated Savage Hulk who is clearly physically High Herald.

Lets remember, Bi-Beast did the same thing.

Them being to those insane levels would have them in either trans or skyfather levels physically and they couldnt even budge Hulk.

So only their class 100x1000 strength (and that guy's ability to siphon energy or whatever he did with his hand) made them skyfathers? Nah, Wendigo and Bi-Beast they would've still lost to any versatile powerhouse like Thor or Silver Surfer granted they used their powers properly. The other guy said that he had already defeated the Silver Surfer so I'm not sure about him. Regardless, he didn't have the chance to utilize his power when the planet was destroyed.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
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No, I assure you it doesn't hurt. Seeing Hulk become powerful doesn't annoy me. It's HOW he becomes powerful that annoys me. Bad writing annoys me. I haven't followed Hulk as much since they turned Ross into Rulk, and Betty into SheRulk...the stupidity keeps coming.... Now this?

By the way, Hulk needs to beat a skyfather, or at least stalemate a skyfather to get mentioned on that level. Next time, he shouldn't hold back... 😆

What Skyfather has Zeus defeated?

What Skyfather has Monarch defeated because people are ranking him as one?

What trans level being has Superboy Prime defeated?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
So only class 100x1000 strength (and that guy's ability to siphon energy or whatever he did with his hand) makes them skyfathers? Nah, they would've still lost to any versatile powerhouse like Thor or Silver Surfer granted they used their powers properly.

So you are telling me Surfer or Thor could tank punches without flinching from an average Wendigo or Bi-Beast? So Thor and Surfer can tank punches without flinching from a Wendigo that is a 1000 times more powerful.

Show me.

Surfer already got own by Armaggedon who got two paneled by a holding back Hulk.