Kyle Rayner & Titans vs. Surfer & Heralds

Who takes the majority with the following stipulations:

1. Everyone is bloodlusted, however, they can't destroy the planet?
2. Bfr is allowed...

Kyle Rayner
Donna Troy (lasso)
Wally West
Tempest
Starfire
Raven

vs.

Silver Surfer
Drax
Firelord
Red Shift
Nova
Morg

The fight takes places in the Great Wall of China.

Surfer and his Heralds win.

Not sure what Team 1 will be doing while Kyle solos.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Surfer and his Heralds win.

What's your take? I think its pretty even.

Originally posted by Mindset
Not sure what Team 1 will be doing while Kyle solos.

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Originally posted by aztec
What's your take? I think its pretty even.

I see the Surfer slightly above Kyle. And Drax would beat Donna, he is stronger imho and durable enough to take some hits.
Wally might be a problem but with so much Firepower the Heralds can go all AoE and take him down. Starfire, though tough isn't in the same class a as Herald of Galactus and Raven is the only one who could give them some wins via BFR. But this aint enough.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I see the Surfer slightly above Kyle. And Drax would beat Donna, he is stronger imho and durable enough to take some hits.
Wally might be a problem but with so much Firepower the Heralds can go all AoE and take him down. Starfire, though tough isn't in the same class a as Herald of Galactus and Raven is the only one who could give them some wins via BFR. But this aint enough.

Thanks for elaborating. I hate when ppl just respond team one wins/team two wins without giving an explanation. It makes me appreciate responses given by posters. 😉

What if Wally went up against Surfer? I can see Kyle overpowering Firelord, which will allow him to aid either Donna or Kory. I can see Donna holding her own against Draw. To be honest, I give them each 5/10. Kory isn't a slouch either, i'm more than confident that she can at best stalemate Nova.

I agree with Batman Prime, too much power overall. Kyle is the best bet here, but Surfer is above him.

Originally posted by aztec
Thanks for elaborating. I hate when ppl just respond team one wins./team two wins without giving an explanation. It makes me appreciate other posters responses. 😉

What if Wally went up against Surfer? I can see Kyle overpowering Firelord, which will allow him to add either Donna or Kory. I can see Donna holding her own against Draw. To be honest, I give them each 5/10.

Ok. Surfer is the most powerful Herald and I don't think that Wally can take him for a majority. Kyle vs Firelord should be a stalemate. And even if Surfer would stalemate Wally and Kyle stalemates Firelord.

You still have Drax, Morg, Nova. The only ones having a slight chance are Donna and Starfire. Raven and Tempes shouldn't be there. Superboy would be a better substitute for Tempest.

How the phuck does Firelord stalemate Kyle?

Originally posted by Mindset
How the phuck does Firelord stalemate Kyle?

'cmon he did fine against Surfer and Thor.

Actually, Morg has beaten Surfer before he got the WOL..Morg's a beast here.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Ok. Surfer is the most powerful Herald and I don't think that Wally can take him for a majority. Kyle vs Firelord should be a stalemate. And even if Surfer would stalemate Wally and Kyle stalemates Firelord.

You still have Drax, Morg, Nova. The only ones having a slight chance are Donna and Starfire. Raven and Tempes shouldn't be there. Superboy would be a better substitute for Tempest.

Tempest is a powerful mage on his own right. Did you read OWAW? He along with Raven were able to restore Darkseid's power after he was severly weakend. Raven's soul-self on the other hand, has been able to knock out Supergirl, has been used to teleport and heal other members. Both Tempest and Raven belong here.

Anyway, as far as Firelord is concern he isn't on Kyle's league. Rayner is his superior imho. I place Kyle, Wally and Norrin in the same league. But that's just me.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
'cmon he did fine against Surfer and Thor.

Starfire has done well against Wonder Woman, but that doesn't mean she's on her same league. 😛

Morg>Surfer>Kyle and Flash

That's how the top tiers here rank imo, thus balancing power in favor of the heralds. I didn't see Morg the first time I read the op.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Morg>Surfer>Kyle and Flash

That's how the top tiers here rank imo, thus balancing power in favor of the heralds. I didn't see Morg the first time I read the op.

Surfer and Morg had a rematch and Surfer annihilated him.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Surfer and Morg had a rematch and Surfer annihilated him.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Morg>Surfer>Kyle and Flash

That's how the top tiers here rank imo, thus balancing power in favor of the heralds. I didn't see Morg the first time I read the op.

I'm not using Morg with his upgrade, or else it would be lopsided. So Morg isn't greater than Surfer, Wally or let alone Kyle. 😉

If Surfer's only beaten him once, it's 1 to 1. Again, that puts him on his level. And he is above Kyle and Flash just for being on that level.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
If Surfer's only beaten him once, it's 1 to 1. Again, that puts him on his level. And he is above Kyle and Flash just for being on that level.

Yeah he is certainly on Surfers level even thought he lost this fight he didnt' get annihilated man I remembered this differently