Order these guys in physical strength

Started by carver934 pages

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That 1000x stronger was just Bibeast chatting away after the transformation.

BiBeast - "We're a thousand times stronger than we'eve ever been. The Hulk won't get away now!"

Just like the chat that Warrior Madness makes Thor 10 Times stronger or Kurse being 5 times stronger Than Thor....hell, we might as well exclude EVERY on panel statement since we don't accept but some of them.

Gotcha. The power gem didn't make Thor stronger and the Warrior Madness did nothing. Thanos fought an average, pissed Thor.

Thanks for helping me out with this. Thor>Thanos.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Do you honestly believe it was a hyperbole statement keeping in mind the other uber feats Pak has had Hulk performing lately?

First let me ask you how strong do you think BBeast and Wendigo are?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
First let me ask you how strong do you think BBeast and Wendigo are?

Savage Hulk level. Proven numerous of times that they are his level. Wendigo overpowered Sasquash, the same Sasquash that lifted the shield hellicarrier.

Originally posted by carver9
Just like the chat that Warrior Madness makes Thor 10 Times stronger or Kurse being 5 times stronger Than Thor....hell, we might as well exclude EVERY on panel statement since we don't accept but some of them.

Gotcha. The power gem didn't make Thor stronger and the Warrior Madness did nothing. Thanos fought an average, pissed Thor.

Thanks for helping me out with this. Thor>Thanos.


If someone else had said Bi-Beast was 1000x amped it would hold more weight, how much would depend on who.

For instance I would take it at face value if Uatu or some other authority had said it.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
First let me ask you how strong do you think BBeast and Wendigo are?

Mid - High Class 100. Bi Beast is as strong as the Merged Hulk

Originally posted by carver9
Savage Hulk level. Proven numerous of times that they are his level. Wendigo overpowered Sasquash, the same Sasquash that lifted the shield hellicarrier.

wendigo is up and down.. remember las vegas?

and thor's warrior madness is a well known affliction that is recognized by other Asgardians...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
wendigo is up and down.. remember las vegas?

Using low showing, sure...average Wendigo is high class 100. The latest versions of Wendigo has been high class 100.

What happened in Las Vegas?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
wendigo is up and down.. remember las vegas?
to be fair that was loeb's doing and not pak's. greg pak for all his faults was at least someone who read hulk back issues apparently, and he unlike loeb knows the wendigo curse is placed on a single individual one at a time. there are not two simultaneous wendigo.

babtiste eating flesh cured cartier of his wendigo possession

Originally posted by carver9
Using low showing, sure...average Wendigo is high class 100. The latest versions of Wendigo has been high class 100.

What happened in Las Vegas?


The Avengers were fighting several of them at once AND a Wendihulk. If they were truly 'High Class 100' they'd have stomped the Avengers easily.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
If someone else had said Bi-Beast was 1000x amped it would hold more weight, how much would depend on who.

For instance I would take it at face value if Uatu or some other authority had said it.

I get your stance but since we have NOTHING to base the characters on how powerful they are/were...since the characters are generally the narriator since they basically got rid of the box that we use to have that aided us with the amp or an outside power source, Bi Beast words are set in stone unless you have another source to tell us how powerful the amp was that they received.

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Originally posted by carver9
Using low showing, sure...average Wendigo is high class 100. The latest versions of Wendigo has been high class 100.

What happened in Las Vegas?

whoah.. i think ure putting too much stock on Wendigo and BiBeast. They are not high class 100... now ure telling me they are on the same level as high class 100's like Supes, Hulk, and Thor...

awww hell no....

ure perception of those 2 is off my friend..

in the end, they were never Hulk's level or high class 100 for that matter. This goes the same for you Sorrow.

Originally posted by carver9
I get your stance but since we have NOTHING to base the characters on how powerful they are/were...since the characters are generally the narriator since they basically got rid of the box that we use to have that aided us with the amp or an outside power source, Bi Beast words are set in stone unless you have another source to tell us how powerful the amp was that they received.

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You've never heard of the terms 'unreliable narrator', 'posturing', or 'boasting' before?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
to be fair that was loeb's doing and not pak's. greg pak for all his faults was at least someone who read hulk back issues apparently, and he unlike loeb knows the wendigo curse is placed on a single individual one at a time. there are not two simultaneous wendigo.

babtiste eating flesh cured cartier of his wendigo possession

Agreed he had Rulk kill one of them even before they showed up in Vegas but lets not forget that Sabretooth also killed one back in the day as stupid as it was.

But generally Wendigo is solid class 100 who can go toe to toe with Hulk any day.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The Avengers were fighting several of them at once AND a Wendihulk. If they were truly 'High Class 100' they'd have stomped the Avengers easily.

Lol...it doesn't work like that. Wolverine fought one of the most powerful incarnations of Wendigo and held his own. Wendigo isn't the smartest of fighters...even Savage Hulk has outsmarted them. The avengers taking on a group of them doesn't down their strength.

For the sake of avoiding this type of conjecture, can we just agree that they were more powerful then their normal levels? Or there some specific reason that they have to be 1000 times more powerful?

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...it doesn't work like that. Wolverine fought one of the most powerful incarnations of Wendigo and held his own. Wendigo isn't the smartest of fighters...even Savage Hulk has outsmarted them. The avengers taking on a group of them doesn't down their strength.

High Class 100s don't struggle against the Avengers if there are several of them at once.

Wendigos are disposable villains, they're on average stronger than Colossus but that's about all you can say.

Originally posted by dmills
For the sake of avoiding this type of conjecture, can we just agree that they were more powerful then their normal levels? Or there some specific reason that they have to be 1000 times more powerful?

Because Hulk wouldn't be skyfather unless we give credence to an offhand remark by a villain.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You've never heard of the terms 'unreliable narrator', 'posturing', or 'boasting' before?

i tend to agree with you. i doubt between the 2 of them they could COUNT to a 1000....

this was the same issue where hulk toyed with them and made one eat the others tail. they were bigger, and stronger, no doubt. to try and take the 1000x stronger at face value is a little ridiculous imo.

doesn't detract from the fact that current hulk is an f'n beast though....

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
whoah.. i think ure putting too much stock on Wendigo and BiBeast. They are not high class 100... now ure telling me they are on the same level as high class 100's like Supes, Hulk, and Thor...

awww hell no....

ure perception of those 2 is off my friend..

in the end, they were never Hulk's level or high class 100 for that matter. This goes the same for you Sorrow.

So Savage Hulk commenting on Wendigo physically being one of the strongest beings he faced is a lie? Wendigo over powering Savage isn't proof enough of this?

Originally posted by carver9
So Savage Hulk commenting on Wendigo physically being one of the strongest beings he faced is a lie? Wendigo over powering Savage isn't proof enough of this?

Spider-Man once stated that Morlun punched harder than the Hulk. 🙂

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Spider-Man once stated that Morlun punched harder than the Hulk. 🙂
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