Order these guys in physical strength

Originally posted by carver9

Stop bringing up the Hulk ft...he destroyed a dimension without even touching it and took a race of Mindless Ones with him, 3 trans tier beings and a amped Fing Fang as well again, WITHOUT TOUCHING THEM OR THE PLANET. His dimension destroying ft has no bounds and I can't think of anyone that has or can repeat it.

Hate to go RWP here, but I hope you know that placing emphasis on him not touching the planet vs touching the planet is all but redundant. Detonation at an optimal height in the air above a target would cause considerably more damage then a straight up surface impact detonation.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Not necessarily. I mean, they're High Meta at their base aren't they?

I haven't read the actual comic, so forgive me if I'm totally wrong, but from what I understand everyone was getting a wish or something, couldn't it be possible that Hulk wished to be more powerful as well?

Yeah, they are around high meta to low Herald but they have shown on panel that they can match Savage Hulk physically and going by fts, Savage Hulk is easily High Herald to trans tier physically (not talking about overall). Hulk has acknowledge Wendigo as one of the stronger beings he has ever faced.

Bi-Beast has arecked a pissed Savage Hulk on panel. Savage Hulk, Supes, Thor are pretty much in the same tier strength wise. If wither of these 3 receive an amp even over 100 times there natural strength, they would completely jump a couple of tiers. Well Bi Beast and Wendigo received this type of amp.

That's why I stated they were trans tier...thy could possibly be higher imo. A 1000 time amp is insane for characters with this type of stength.

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, they are around high meta to low Herald but they have shown on panel that they can match Savage Hulk physically and going by fts, Savage Hulk is easily High Herald to trans tier physically (not talking about overall). Hulk has acknowledge Wendigo as one of the stronger beings he has ever faced.

Bi-Beast has arecked a pissed Savage Hulk on panel. Savage Hulk, Supes, Thor are pretty much in the same tier strength wise. If wither of these 3 receive an amp even over 100 times there natural strength, they would completely jump a couple of tiers. Well Bi Beast and Wendigo received this type of amp.

That's why I stated they were trans tier...thy could possibly be higher imo. A 1000 time amp is insane for characters with this type of stength.

Hell, I don't think any Herald character is always at those levels. Certainly not Hulk, Superman, Surfer, or Thor. But Hulk is more variable than the others.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Savage Hulk isn't always High Herald+ level physically.

Hell, I don't think any Herald character is always at those levels. Certainly not Hulk, Superman, Surfer, or Thor. But Hulk is more variable than the others.

I agree but if a character has matched this person physically on Moe than one occasion, its pretty much easy to say where the placement is.
If someone over powers Hulk, especially a pissed Hulk its pretty much safe to say that they are in his tier.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So...is there actually any indication whatsoever that Hulk and Betty destroyed the Dark Dimension? Or is that just Carver silliness?

The Dimension was still there, though the Planet was destroyed (the nearby satellites were more or less ok, the loss of the Planets Gravity had an heavy toll on them).

Makes sense, if the dimension would have been destroyed there would be nothing and the wish would have to reform everything to the "original" state. But we see Hulk on the rocks that were once the Planet, but the dimension is still around there. So prove and fact, the dimension was never destroyed.

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Originally posted by carver9
So Armageddon defeating both Merged Hulk and Surfer in a couple of panels doesn't put him as a elite top tier? Gotcha. So both Bi Beast and Wendigo being amped a thousand times over their original PL doesn't put them w trans tier...Gotcha.

Stop responding to my posts.

Pr, I agree 100%.

Armageddon never defeated the Surfer.... (I saw the scans and Surfers last words were "I'm power"😉... post the scans... so we can see if you are exaggerating something? can you?

They were not herald level and maybe they touched the herald level after the amp, but the lower end. every High Herald ala thor or Surfer would stomp those versions... they didn't became TRANS, only in your fantasy biscuits

Originally posted by carver9
You are doing it again. A planet was destroyed, no matter what size you think it was/is. The nearby planets were destroyed as well... The dimension followed with this. So the mindless Ones are fodder as well? You know, the same race of beings that was giving Dormammu and Classic Strange fits. You know, the ones they were incapable of defeating and had to put up a dimensional barrier.

A small magical Planet, by Hulk AND Betty...
Moons or planetoids at best, even smaller, and most probably because the bigger "still small" Planet was destroyed...
The mindless ones were depowered and a shadow of their former selfs, obviously...

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Originally posted by Batman-Prime
The Dimension was still there, though the Planet was destroyed (the nearby satellites were more or less ok, the loss of the Planets Gravity had an heavy toll on them).

Makes sense, if the dimension would have been destroyed there would be nothing and the wish would have to reform everything to the "original" state. But we see Hulk on the rocks that were once the Planet, but the dimension is still around there. So prove and fact, the dimension was never destroyed.

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Armageddon never defeated the Surfer.... (I saw the scans and Surfers last words were "I'm power"😉... post the scans... so we can see if you are exaggerating something? can you?

They were not herald level and maybe they touched the herald level after the amp, but the lower end. every High Herald ala thor or Surfer would stomp those versions... they didn't became TRANS, only in your fantasy biscuits

A small magical Planet, by Hulk AND Betty...
Moons or planetoids at best, even smaller, and most probably because the bigger "still small" Planet was destroyed...
The mindless ones were depowered and a shadow of their former selfs, obviously...

[cvsm]grinning[/csm]

You know its arguable if Doomsday is stronger than Savage Hulk right? Especially if we go by fts. Well, Wendigo and Bi-Beast overpowered a angry Savage Hulk and Hulk even stated that Wendigo was one of the strongest beings he faced.

You second argument. Surfer was saved...if it wasn't for that, he would have either been koed or died. Surfer was in Armageddon mercy just like Merged Hulk was.

Show me where it states the Mindless Ones were depowered. The JLA and the JSA was depowered when they faced Prime. It's pretty obvious they were. Ion was depowered as well along with Conner "if we look at previous showings involving Conner and Prime...lol.

Make a thread of Surfer physically over power a Wendigo and Bi Beast that are amped a thousand times over their natural power level. Something is wrong with you.

All that was destroyed, as far as 'cosmic cheese' goes, is the planet. And it wasn't completely pulverized, as there were still chunks of rock floating around Hulk and Umar. That doesn't take away anything from the feat, since they weren't directly hitting it.

What's more impressive than that is the fact that he no-sold the simultaneous attacks of all the others like they weren't even there:

And then his collision with She-Hulk vaporizing them, along with the Mindless Ones (who were potent enough that it was stated Umar needed help fending them off)

Neither Bi Beast nor Wendigo have wrecked the Hulk on panel that's false.
Both seem about equal strength wise and can match Savage Hulk at least for a time but it's made clear he would surpass them had the fights reached their conclusion.

They're a notch or two below the Thor/pissed Savage Hulk strength range but if to be taken literally a 1000x amp is massive and should easily put them physically above Thor level.

Hulks stock has gone up dramatically since Greg Pak took over his book but it does seem as though Marvel are pushing him higher up the totem pole.

Hulk is pretty much a Skyfather in his own right(low skyfather if it be), despite what hulk haters say

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Hulk is pretty much a Skyfather in his own right(low skyfather if it be), despite what hulk haters say

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why is he Skyfather?

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Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
He busted the equvilent of a galaxy with pure strength,

his eyes bleed energy

lol

That 1000x stronger was just Bibeast chatting away after the transformation.

BiBeast - "We're a thousand times stronger than we'eve ever been. The Hulk won't get away now!"

Originally posted by Omega Vision
When?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Shared feat.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Are you kidding me?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That 1000x stronger was just Bibeast chatting away after the transformation.

BiBeast - "We're a thousand times stronger than we'eve ever been. The Hulk won't get away now!"

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
no proof of this, dont post this.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
no proof of this, dont post this.

did you read the comic?
it's right in front of me... i just posted BiBeast's on panel line after he transformed into a giant. sigh...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That 1000x stronger was just Bibeast chatting away after the transformation.

BiBeast - "We're a thousand times stronger than we'eve ever been. The Hulk won't get away now!"