current hulk vs classic drax

Originally posted by carver9
Where in that comic did it say Hulk NEEDED help to pull what he pulled?

Classic Drax is pg Drax "with an amp". They are the same peeps.

In this case, you would need evidence to the effect that Hulk could do the feat on his own, as it exceeds all of his other feats and was done in conjunction with a being of equal power. If Surfer and some equally powerful herald named Durfer worked together to achieve some feat that was greater than anything Surfer had done on his own before, you would literally have to be retarded to claim that Surfer could then do said feat on his own; yet this is precisely the position you are in.

No; Classic Drax is Drax before he was brought back as Dumb Drax, a state in which he was supposedly more powerful than before, but never was demonstrated as such; it was Dumb Drax who had the gem. Classic Drax was considerably more powerful than Dumb Drax, even with the power gem.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
obvious bait thread was obvious

thanos and drax were both amped after their first deaths, say what you will about thanos, but juiced up drax "fought" professor hulk on even ground

Don't interfere in my baiting... er, ignore how that sounds.

Juiced up Drax wasn't juiced up. No feats = no amp.

I wonder how many heralds have destroyed planets either directly or as collateral damage of a battle?

Originally posted by dmills
I wonder how many heralds have destroyed planets either directly or as collateral damage of a battle?

Well Surfer/Morg did it (and possibly the entire solar system). Gladiator did it. Savage Hulk destroyed something twice the size of Earth. There's more but it's late and I can't think of them.

hulk

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Originally posted by guy222
hulk

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Originally posted by guy222
hulk

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lol yep.

Originally posted by Simbon
How did Hulk appear more impressive? Because he was burlier? Because he had green energy coming out of his eyes?

Nothing he has done even approaches ripping apart a star; Surfer and Morg have blown up a solar system by tussling -- and without dying, I might add. Vaporizing the people he did would be more impressive if they had any feats to mention, other than being dubiously amped. I say dubiously, because any amp that isn't backed up by feats isn't actually an amp, just as any "weakened state" that doesn't have correspondingly low feats isn't really a weakened state. For instance, Mangog's most recent appearance was supposed to have him at higher levels than ever, even though he was demonstrably not at higher levels, while Magneto's best feats are almost all when he was in a "weakened" state. Power multipliers are meaningless: warrior madness Thor is not ten times as powerful as normal Thor; the unipower doesn't always make its bearer 50 times as powerful; there is no reason to believe that the giant versions of Bi-Beast and Wendigo were even equal to their normal-size counterparts.

Originally posted by Simbon
Classic Drax ripped apart a star; and when he blew up a planet and its moon through collatoral damage, he was only KO'd, not destroyed as Hulk was. Even the less powerful Dumb Drax was implied to have the power to destroy an entire dimension.

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Actually a great point for this debate. We can assume that both are equally strong or can't really tell which one is stronger but though Hulk took blows from amped beings with ease he was killed (and reformed through the wish's power) after his greatest feat (destroying a Planet) while Drax only was koed. So Drax invulnerability is most likely greater.

All in all they would clash, a Planet would get destroyed. Drax would be koed while Hulk would be dead (no wish for you this time buddy)...

vin

Originally posted by zopzop
Well Surfer/Morg did it (and possibly the entire solar system). Gladiator did it. Savage Hulk destroyed something twice the size of Earth. There's more but it's late and I can't think of them.

I believe Surfer did it again during his battle with Ravenous during Annihilation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The manner in which he shrugged off an elite top tier speaks volumes.

Who are the elite top tiers?

Originally posted by dmills
Who are the elite top tiers?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Armch-whatever and prior to Thor, Juggs, Rulk, etc.

I don't remember any Thor confrontation, the Juggs confrontation was a flash fight in which Marko seemed to have an edge. He did wtf pawn Loeb force Rulk though. And I loved every second of it 😂

Funny thing about Marvel is that while current Hulk is a beast, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Surfer come down and tool him easily, only to turn around and be slapped around by Thor, who in turn gets swatted by the Hulk 😆

Originally posted by dmills
I don't remember any Thor confrontation, the Juggs confrontation was a flash fight in which Marko seemed to have an edge. He did wtf pawn Loeb force Rulk though. And I loved every second of it 😂

Originally posted by guy222
hulk

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Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Hulk would punch him and he would explode.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
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Actually a great point for this debate. We can assume that both are equally strong or can't really tell which one is stronger but though Hulk took blows from amped beings with ease he was killed (and reformed through the wish's power) after his greatest feat (destroying a Planet) while Drax only was koed. So Drax invulnerability is most likely greater.

All in all they would clash, a Planet would get destroyed. Drax would be koed while Hulk would be dead (no wish for you this time buddy)...

vin

i see where that theory of the hulk dying can come about, but if you read what tyrannus said properly you will see how wrong it is:

Arm'cheddon: "No! This was never what I wanted. I wished for him to suffer as I suffer"

Tyrannus: "Which sounds to me like you'll suffer all that he does fighting, burning and reforming trapped in this never-ending battle. Alas, I fear you'll grow weary of it long before the Hulk but
that's what you get for playing with a wishing well."

now the confusion stems from that part underlined cause of these (....). the comma is what saves the day here as it denotes a separation; "...suffer all that he does fighting, burning and reforming in th....."

in other words they suffer the affects of hulk's fighting (comma), which are burning and reforming

arm'cheddon's wish for the hulk to suffer backfired on him causing him to suffer the effects of hulk being trapped in the dark dimension with him as he fights (comma), burning and reforming from the destructive force.

so yeah, they didn't reform cause the hulk did and his reforming makes them reform, they died cause of the collateral damage from hulk and betty's fighting and are reformed endlessly only for the cycle to happen again.

^So Hulks suffers like Arm does. He burns, reforms, battles and so on- And Arm suffers because he burns, reforms, watches.

Both suffer the burning, reforming and being inside this loop, right?

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Originally posted by zopzop
Well Surfer/Morg did it (and possibly the entire solar system). Gladiator did it. Savage Hulk destroyed something twice the size of Earth. There's more but it's late and I can't think of them.

Different type of planets destroying. Surfer and Morg required energy output... Hulk and SH didn't even touch the planet and took out the planet including nearby planets as well. I wonder what type of force would generate from an actual punch since again, Hulk and SH didn't even lay a finger on the planet and took it out along with nearby moons and planet.

To my knowledge, no one has physically done that before. Earth would have been shredded if Hulk got serious with someone at the PL he is currently at.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
^So Hulks suffers like Arm does. He burns, reforms, battles and so on- And Arm suffers because he burns, reforms, watches.

Both suffer the burning, reforming and being inside this loop, right?

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How could he have reformed and died if it was Hulk that wished them all back? They died, Hulk sits back with a smile on his face and wish them back. Everyone ask how they came back to life, everyone looks at Hulk who is smiling and Hulk say his little line. Umar (who was clearly still alive after the attack) states that she had nothing to do with bringing them back and since Hulk was still alive, it was pretty much him that did it.

A dead man came wish people back to life.