Originally posted by Wodenson
Odin beat Thor to the point where a pair of generic Asgardians carried him off helplessly.Fortunately, what should be and what is are entirely different. Odin is physically stronger than Thor. It's been proven, and it's been admitted to by Thor.
No, he's not. He has never displayed physical dominance when they've fought. They have displayed parity.
Yeah, it does. If Odin is strong enough to physically humiliate Thor, he's strong enough to run roughshod over Gladiator. Hold the Gladiator romanticism and just stick with what's been proven.
Wait and see.
See Fear Itself #5.
I see now. This is where we must agree to disagree.
You use reasoning of how characters fair when they engage each other as to who is stronger. Where I use DIRECT evidence of who is stronger (who overpowers who when they are grappled up or who has the better strength feats). The reason I don't use your type of reasoning is because I know that weaker beings can beat or embarrass stronger beings.
Durability, skill, and speed are also other factors. For example, Colossus can hang with beings like Savage Hulk because of his durability and skill. But he is far weaker in strength. Thing can hit nearly as hard as WWH but his durability can't withstand hits from WWH as much.
So, to me it's not about the perception of portrayal since portrayal is subjective and doesn't always conform to what happens on panel.