Originally posted by -Pr-
What's your point?
I actually forgot what's the relevance of what I'm arguing in respect to the thread itself.
I had to backtrack to find out. It's basically about a character being slammed or choked doesn't mean they are weaker in strength (what Odin did to Thor). Here goes:
Wodenson said,
Yeah, it does. If Odin is strong enough to physically humiliate Thor, he's strong enough to run roughshod over Gladiator. Hold the Gladiator romanticism and just stick with what's been proven.
I said,
I see now. This is where we must agree to disagree.
You use reasoning of how characters fair when they engage each other as to who is stronger. Where I use DIRECT evidence of who is stronger (who overpowers who when they are grappled up or who has the better strength feats). The reason I don't use your type of reasoning is because I know that weaker beings can beat or embarrass stronger beings (as shown many times in comics).Durability, skill, and speed are also other factors. For example, Colossus can hang with beings like Savage Hulk because of his durability and skill. But he is far weaker in strength. Thing has hit nearly as hard as WWH (in evidence of his single blow that bloodied and broke WWH's face in) but his durability can't withstand hits from WWH as much.
Note:
In all the Thor/Odin occurrences Odin took the initiative. Thor never resisted his attack. It was more like a surprised attack.
Carver said,
WTF. So thing can bust Sentry face up? So thing can hit harder than Thor (it was stated on panel that green Scar can hit harder than Thor)? So thing can punch 2 beings including a chunk of a city out of orbit?
I said,
Stop lowballing. Thing busted WWH's face up good with one punch. Can you say "Super Bloody"?
Darkone said,
Dude how old are you really? Your logic is garbage bottom line. She Hulk and The Thing gave WWH a bloody nose and they got thrashed, and you are sitting there and telling us that was impressive. whats impressive that Hulk didn't kill them in which he could have easily. Read some damn comics, before making any comments think before you speak, every time you speak it's garbage logic that doesn't make sense.
I said,
Of course its impressive. WWH would have given another WWH the SAME bloody face as Thing did with a punch. The fact that Thing's and She Hulk's durability wasn't on WWH's level is the reason they couldn't stand against his blows.Durability =/= Strength.
Note: I wasn't saying nor implying that Thing is strong as WWH, just the fact that his blow resembled a blow that WWH would give to himself (another WWH fighting him). This may be PIS what Thing did but my point is that this occurrence alone would say that WWH is not more than 2x as strong as Thing and Thing's durability is less than WWH's. But other occurrences say that WWH is more than 2x as strong as Thing and what Thing did is maybe PIS.
Darkone said,
Durability and strength they couldn't stand a snow ball chance in Hell. It was not impressive, what would have been impressive they KO out of the city they didn't, the Thing got smack down like prostitute on a sidewalk and she-hulk nearly wet herself when Hulk punk'ed her.
And finally I said,
Who cares how Thing lost. I could break your face in and you beat me like a girl. It wouldn't change the fact that I was strong enough to break your face in.If WWH hit another WWH in the face then do you think his face would be the same, slightly worst, or very worst than what Thing did?
Note:
This was to show that if I'm strong enough to generate great force (resembling yours) then you beating me down doesn't disprove that my hitting power is in the vicinity as yours.
But all of this is moot anyway when I agreed with Wodenson that Odin is stronger than Glads provided that we see that Odin is as strong as the Serpent. I just disagree with choking someone or slamming someone, by surprise attack and someone who weighs far less than your strength, into the ground proves you are stronger.