Wolverine and Punisher vs Superman and Thor

Before declaring this spite, there's a catch:

PIS, CIS, and Spiderman vs Firelord feats apply for Punisher and Wolverine.

But you need to provide feats to prove it.. So, if you have any feats of either CIS, PIS, or Spiderman vs Firelord that prove Punisher and Wolverine can beat these two, try and make a case. 😄

Wolverine vs Thor was also there. Terra-Man with Kryponite Bullets is also nothing new. Give Punishe K-Nite bullets and Pis, while giving Wolverine PIS and you have a massacre 😄.

You mean the fight where once Thor got mad, Wolverine lost in like two moves?

Team 2 every time. The downside to being the premier houses are bad/PIS ridden showings but fortunately, it also comes with great showings that balance out the poor ones.

With PIS Punisher knows no boundries

Even Current Superman and Thor at their lowest are still > this team by a fair bit. They win.

Is this a straight up fight or a scenario?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Is this a straight up fight or a scenario?

I think that was left open...

In a scenario I don't see why Punisher and Wolverine PIS induced shouldn't be able to win this. Considering Superman and Thor low showings and what Punisher and Wolverine pulled by PIS/jobbing opponents they can take them.

Seriously there's a reason why we take out these PIS moments. Plot does what it wants and if it wants Wolv and Pun to win they will.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
In a scenario I don't see why Punisher and Wolverine PIS induced shouldn't be able to win this. Considering Superman and Thor low showings and what Punisher and Wolverine pulled by PIS/jobbing opponents they can take them.

Seriously there's a reason why we take out these PIS moments. Plot does what it wants and if it wants Wolv and Pun to win they will.

What kind of low showings do you think both men have that would enable Logan and Castle to win?

Originally posted by -Pr-
What kind of low showings do you think both men have that would enable Logan and Castle to win?

Don't get me wrong I only see a possibility for Punisher and Wolverine with PIS and low showings.

In a straight up fight I couldn't lowball Supes and Thor and wank up Punisher and Wolverine enough to get them a win but in a scenario with PIS I don't see why they shouldn't have a good shot.

I don't get it. Are you using only the low showings of Thor/Superman and the high showings of Wolverine/Punisher?

That's not what the OP said as far as I can tell. With the arguments you're making and the scenario(s) you've listed, you might as well just say they can win if the writer needs them to and leave it at that.

^ pretty much, silly thread I think.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't get it. Are you using only the low showings of Thor/Superman and the high showings of Wolverine/Punisher?

That's not what the OP said as far as I can tell. With the arguments you're making and the scenario(s) you've listed, you might as well just say they can win if the writer needs them to and leave it at that.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I don't see any real thread starting with Supes at base levels honestly, Supes detected people by heartbeats and even recognized them by such unless we lowball there's nothing to argue and lowballing is usually using PIS showings. Like Spider-man when Punisher locked him up in a prison cell or something to get time to run away, while Spider-mans strength easily allowes him to rip the door out or dent the bars which he has done both before.

....Okay?

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Wolverine's fight against Thor shows that he can sneek up on him, Batman was in the same room as Supes and other heroes noone was able to see or hear him (<- I would leave it to hardcore Wolverine fans to support his stealth skills) Punisher was able to get away from Sentry in Dark Reign who at least in this issue seemed like an exact Supes copy (he even had HV AFAIK only in that issue) Punisher also seems to be able to get access to pretty much everything he needs (Dark Reign arsenal) I think in a neutral or mixed universe where k-nite exists he could grab some maybe that liquid shit Gog used in his spear to inject it into Superman and weaken him enough that an ordinary Uiz was able to shoot through him. Stuff like that.

Don't get me wrong I only see a possibility for Punisher and Wolverine with PIS and low showings.

In a straight up fight I couldn't lowball Supes and Thor and wank up Punisher and Wolverine enough to get them a win but in a scenario with PIS I don't see why they shouldn't have a good shot.

The Wolverine vs Thor fight also shows that Thor can basically two shot Wolverine any time he wants.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
....Okay?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
you might as well just say they can win if the writer needs them to and leave it at that.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Seriously there's a reason why we take out these PIS moments. Plot does what it wants and if it wants Wolv and Pun to win they will.

Originally posted by cdtm
PIS, CIS, and Spiderman vs Firelord feats apply for Punisher and Wolverine.

But you need to provide feats to prove it..

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I Like Spider-man when Punisher locked him up in a prison cell or something to get time to run away, while Spider-mans strength easily allowes him to rip the door out or dent the bars which he has done both before.

those probably weren't standard metal bars, thats CIS I guess.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
and taht's actually what I have done: That's all I did and that's what the OP was asking for. If we don't use low only we have PIS/low vs. legit feats, see the dilemma?

Okay?

And the OP didn't specify that we have to use only low showings for Superman/Thor.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Okay?

And the OP didn't specify that we have to use only low showings for Superman/Thor.