Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
He didn't one-shot k.o. Surfer in this scan at all either. He failed miserably when they escaped. He didn't one-shot herald level at all.Lol. Tyrant exploited a weakness so Galactus would only power him up with attacks. Stop playing it up like Tyrant would take an attack from Tiamut the same way. This is the same Tyrant that take 3 tries to take down heralds. Universal in power? lol
So Bill, JOH, Gladiator, and Surfer were holding orbs?
Oh snap, because Celestials have never beaten down the Uni-Mind without amnesia involved. Oh wait....
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Oh look, 3 Skyfather failing against Arishem.
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Look at Arishem after the beat down Tiamut gave him.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
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What's the point of those OLD Celestial scans from Thor 300? Everyone has seen them. Show the scans of them repeatedly firing at Thor and not only is Thor still alive but fully conscious. That was a low showing for the skyfathers, three of them struck with enough force to knock a world from it's orbit?! LOL Odin by himself is a confirmed galaxy buster (and yes there is on panel proof).
I've shown you more recent scans of IW (a high meta character) busting a hole through Exitar's armor then KILLING him. Celestials have a hyperspace weakness. I've shown you scans of a high herald busting a hole in Exitar's armor then crushing his skull (which was said to be even sturdier than his outer shell) without exploiting ANY weakness. I've shown you a high herald/low trans character, Jean with a sliver of the PF, blow Arshiem's hand CLEAN OFF, then the he and the other Celestials departed the planet and didn't pass judgement his stump still smoldering.
In the very same issue where Tyrant didn't "one shot" those heralds, he PUNKED Galactus. Galacuts lied to the Surfer and claimed that he didnt' want to face Tyrant because of the collateral damage to the universe! 😆
PS, Didn't Tiamut "sucker punch" aka attack from behind Arshiem? Or am I misremembering?
Originally posted by zopzop
What's the point of those OLD Celestial scans from Thor 300? Everyone has seen them. Show the scans of them repeatedly firing at Thor and not only is Thor still alive but fully conscious. That was a low showing for the skyfathers, three of them struck with enough force to knock a world from it's orbit?! LOL Odin by himself is a confirmed galaxy buster (and yes there is on panel proof).I've shown you more recent scans of IW (a high meta character) busting a hole through Exitar's armor then KILLING him. Celestials have a hyperspace weakness. I've shown you scans of a high herald busting a hole in Exitar's armor then crushing his skull (which was said to be even sturdier than his outer shell) without exploiting ANY weakness. I've shown you a high herald/low trans character, Jean with a sliver of the PF, blow Arshiem's hand CLEAN OFF, then the he and the other Celestials departed the planet and didn't pass judgement his stump still smoldering.
In the very same issue where Tyrant didn't "one shot" those heralds, he PUNKED Galactus. Galacuts lied to the Surfer and claimed that he didnt' want to face Tyrant because of the collateral damage to the universe! 😆
PS, Didn't Tiamut "sucker punch" aka attack from behind Arshiem? Or am I misremembering?
Poor zozop, fooling himself yet again. Tyrant is dogshit that couldn't even oneshot heralds. Beating galactus by feeding on that same energy? Lol Tiamut would kick Galsctus ass straight up without exploiting any weakness. Do ever stop looking stupid? This ***** fAiled at taking thanos down and you think he can beat Tiamut? Lol
Oh shit blowing off a Celestials hand is a win now? Attacking a celestial that doesn't fight back is a feat? And I've shown you three skyfather shit and bowed before Arishem whom Tiamut crushed. When blowing off tiamut's hand stops him, then you would have an argument. That shit hasn't happened to tiamut. Neither arishem or exitar were focus on their attackers. Neither are on tiamut's level. Take your bullshit else because he believes you crap. You're not an exper; your just a deluded fanboy.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Poor zozop, fooling himself yet again. Tyrant is dogshit that couldn't even oneshot heralds. Beating galactus by feeding on that same energy? Lol Tiamut would kick Galsctus ass straight up without exploiting any weakness. Do ever stop looking stupid? This ***** fAiled at taking thanos down and you think he can beat Tiamut? LolOh shit blowing off a Celestials hand is a win now? Attacking a celestial that doesn't fight back is a feat? And I've shown you three skyfather shit and bowed before Arishem whom Tiamut crushed. When blowing off tiamut's hand stops him, then you would have an argument. That shit hasn't happened to tiamut. Neither arishem or exitar were focus on their attackers. Neither are on tiamut's level. Take your bullshit else because he believes you crap. You're not an exper; your just a deluded fanboy.
A few things, like I said, the Eternals were NOT at full power (only Ikaris was) for that Uni-Mind, Zuras stated this himself on panel :
So there goes that feat/fight.
Regarding the "epic" throwdown between Arshiem and Tiamut, look how the mighty Celestials bury one of their own :
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Multiple Celestials using tech to lift that chunk of mountain to bury Tiamut under. Look at a "lowly" skyfather Zeus heaves an entire volcano by himself and bury Typhon underneath it :
Tiamut claimed the battle shook the Earth to it's foundations. Yet Thanos claimed when Tyrant and Galactus threwdown entire GALAXIES were destroyed.
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Face it, the Celestials have been written down a lot since Thor 300. Hell, in that very issue, MULTIPLE blasts from varying Celestials couldn't KO or kill Thor.
That's tyrant before galactus drained him and shrank him. Dp power tyrant's figt with thanos created a little crater. Universal power my ass. What's tyrant going to do him Tiamut with so much power that it creates a crater the size of an ant hole at Tiamuts feet? Drain on TiAmuts attack that different from galactus' energy. Take those claws and furiosly cut at tiamuts feet only for tiamut to step on him. Tyrant is the new wasp.
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Regarding the "epic" throwdown between Arshiem and Tiamut, look how the mighty Celestials bury one of their own :
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Multiple Celestials using tech to lift that chunk of mountain to bury Tiamut under. Look at a "lowly" skyfather Zeus heaves an entire volcano by himself and bury Typhon underneath it :
oh snap, So the entire host was so weak from their subduing Tiamut that the needed team effort to do what a skyfather? This is in addition to him beating arishem, who humbled 3 skyfathers. So even after he beat arishem, he was still so powerful the host were weakened thanks.
Tiamut claimed the battle shook the Earth to it's foundations. Yet Thanos claimed when Tyrant and Galactus threwdown entire GALAXIES were destroyed.
VSFace it, the Celestials have been written down a lot since Thor 300. Hell, in that very issue, MULTIPLE blasts from varying Celestials couldn't KO or kill Thor.
How come you say the Celestials have been written down since Thor 300 yet even skyfather level beings and cube beings acknowledge their might?
The skyfathers were written out of IG saga because they would contributed nothing agains thanos. They were used in The End and a number of them was turned to dust by a akhenaten. Thanos with the heart destroys a Celetial and Galactus was shooked that one was actually killed. Starlin's opinon is obvious that celestials were greater than skyfathers. Destroying the armor is one thing, killing a celestial is a different matter and the entire host could not kill tiamut, only bury him. An enitre host join force to subdue on confine Tiamut. Tyrant unleashes his fury on creates a pot hole and you argue Tyrant can take a being like Tiamut? Even Franklin richards who's created a pocket universe will be their level, not above it.
Pot-hole-Pete Tyrant loses.
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Dude you keep bringing up that Thor 300 issue and using it as a cudgel against Team but a lot has happened since that issue was released. Meta's, High Heralds, and low Trans Tiers have damaged and even killed Celestials. They have a HUGE weakness to hyperspace based abilities and it hasn't been retconned. Even without the weakness exploit, FAR FAR less than the combined power of this team has busted a hole in their shell, cracked their skull and blew off their hand.
Originally posted by zopzop
@WhiteWitchKingDude you keep bringing up that Thor 300 issue and using it as a cudgel against Team but a lot has happened since that issue was released. Meta's, High Heralds, and low Trans Tiers have damaged and even killed Celestials. They have a HUGE weakness to hyperspace based abilities and it hasn't been retconned. Even without the weakness exploit, FAR FAR less than the combined power of this team has busted a hole in their shell, cracked their skull and blew off their hand.
That one time with Sue regarding hyper space where she had to destroy the brain and exitar wasn't really fighting her? Dude don't complain about Thor 300 when u bring up one time occurence while ignoring that Kubik sought to avoid coming near a Celestial or how hyperspace weakness wasn't exploited by the other Celestials on Tiamut. If it was so easy how come GalActus and the Watcher feared Tiamut if hyperspace was so easy exploitable on a Celestial? Hell, how come Sue didn't just destory Exitar's entire form without needing to put herself in danger by going inside Exitar. You act as if Tyrant would havve any chance of Entering tiamut's armor if he consciously decide to regenerate any damage done. So blowing a hole or hand is a win now.
Tyrant's best effort put a crater in the ground that would be an ANT HOLE at Tiamuts feet. If hyperspace was easily exploited Zuras and the Eternals would not have feared Tiamut. Watcher would been like ummm...so a Celestial awoke...I'll just take that gun that taps into hyperspace and kill him. He wouldn't have averted his eyes. Tyrant can't even one-shot a Jack of Hearts and u think he'll pose any threat to Tiamut who would regen from any attacks and kill the annoyance just by stepping on him. Face it, Tyrant has never beaten any one above trans at all. He never actually beat Galactus either and couldn't ko thanos. Face it, Tiamut didn't just blow a hand off or a hole in a Celestial - he out right beat down Arishem who slumpt at his feet. And it took the entire host of his peers to subdue him. It left the Host weakened to the point that they had to combine their effort to perform a feet Zeus alone did.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
That one time with Sue regarding hyper space where she had to destroythe brain and exitar was really fighting her? Dude don't complaint about Thor 300 when u bring up one time occurence while ignoring that Kubik sought to avoid coming near a Celestial or how hyperspace weakness wasn't exploited by the other Celestials on Tiamut. If it was so easy how come GalActus and the Watcher feared Tiamut if hyperspace was so easy exploitable on a Celestial? Hell, how come Sue didn't just destory Exitar's entire form without needing to put herself in danger by going inside Exitar. You act as if Tyrant would havve any chance of Entering tiamut's armor if he consciously decide to regenerate any damage done. So blowing a hole or hand is a win now.Tyrant's best effort put a crater in the ground that would be an ANT HOLE at Tiamuts feet. If hyperspace was easily exploited Zuras and the Eternals would not have feared Tiamut. Watcher would been like ummm...so a Celestial awoke...I'll just take that gun that taps into hyperspace and kill him. He wouldn't have averted his eyes. Tyrant can't even one-shot a Jack of Hearts and u think he'll pose any threat to Tiamut who would regen from any attacks and kill the annoyance just by stepping on him. Face it, Tyrant has never beaten any one above trans at all. He never actually beat Galactus either and couldn't ko thanos. Face it, Tiamut didn't just blow a hand off or a hole in a Celestial - he out right beat down Arishem who slumpt at his feet. And it took the entire host of his peers to subdue him. It left the Host weakened to the point that they had to combine their effort to perform a feet Zeus alone did.
You don't know that the the Host fighting Tiamut weakened them to where they had to use tech to lift a mountain, it's just speculation.
I'm not just using the Sue feat with the hyperspace exploit, even though it's right there on panel as being a HUGE weakness characters can use as long as writers remember it or retcon it away.
Even without that, I've shown you characters less powerful than Tyrant and Team punching holes in Celestial armor (not just any Celestial either but Exitar) then crushing his skull. I've shown you Jean with PF sliver, blowing off Arshiem's hand and it was a smoldering stump. He and the rest of the Celestials abandoned that world and flew off after that.
So it's within the realm of possibility that Team does in fact beat Tiamut.
Originally posted by zopzop
You don't know that the the Host fighting Tiamut weakened them to where they had to use tech to lift a mountain, it's just speculation.I'm not just using the Sue feat with the hyperspace exploit, even though it's right there on panel as being a HUGE weakness characters can use as long as writers remember it or retcon it away.
Even without that, I've shown you characters less powerful than Tyrant and Team punching holes in Celestial armor (not just any Celestial either but Exitar) then crushing his skull. I've shown you Jean with PF sliver, blowing off Arshiem's hand and it was a smoldering stump. He and the rest of the Celestials abandoned that world and flew off after that.
So it's within the realm of possibility that Team does in fact beat Tiamut.
But it's not speculation when u try and claim that it took the host to lift a mountain instead of the Celestials deciding to all participate in the burying of TiAmut. You tried to pass off the host as only equal to Zeus with a solid proof it actually required the entire host to perform that feat. Celestials have moved planets to use as weapons and it took only two.
As for your argument that the team has a chance, the times Exitar and Arishem were vulnerable were when they weren't minding their attackers. Any low showings featured them attending to other matters and so such attacks were even possible. A minor celestial regenerated instantly after his arm got cut off. What do you think is going to occur against a Tiamut when his only attention is to destroying this team? A wound is healed instantly. Thanos and void vets
mind raped. Tyrant gets stepped on.
Originally posted by zopzopdude I've just given up on Big G... He will forever fail to live up to his former glory. At this rate Galacta's gonna be pwning him on a whim when he doesn't giver her what she wants... spoiled brat.
No it wasn't. It was mainstream Marvel 616 reality. Celestials can be pwned if you exploit their hyperspace weakness.Tyrant isn't Galactus. Hurling worlds at him is meaningless. And that's a low showing for Galactus (as per usual) seeing as how he's survived in the hearts of stars without even flinching.
