DP Tyrant vs Surtur...

Surtur is equipped with Twilight amped with the Casket of Ancient Winters...

Battle takes place in a vacant Asgard in proximity to the Eternal Flame...

Fight to the Death or KO; No BFR...who wins?

Tyrant, I'd even say stomp but I don't know how the casket will affect him.

Originally posted by zopzop
Tyrant, I'd even say stomp but I don't know how the casket will affect him.

Really!?

I dont think it would be a stomp either way...

Tyrant is really powerful, but Surturs strength will be constantly replenished by the Flame...

Furthermore, the closer to the Eternal Flame Surtur gets, the stronger he becomes...

In addition, the Casket proved capable of holding Odin; its not out of the question that the Casket could hold Tyrant as well...although I wouldnt be surprised if it didnt prove capable of holding him.

Are you kidding? Surtur dominates Tyrant, without the Casket.

Tyrant only approached Galactus level by drawing upon all his energy resources, and the OP is not giving him that advantage.

With the Sword and Casket, Surtur wins this hands down.

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Really!?

I dont think it would be a stomp either way...

Tyrant is really powerful, but Surturs strength will be constantly replenished by the Flame...

Furthermore, the closer to the Eternal Flame Surtur gets, the stronger he becomes...

In addition, the Casket proved capable of holding Odin; its not out of the question that the Casket could hold Tyrant as well...although I wouldnt be surprised if it didnt prove capable of holding him.

Odin and Tyrant are two wholly different beings though.

Tyrant, even "DP" Tyrant, operates on a universal scale. He's the closest thing you can get to being an abstract without actually being one. Somehow, when Galactus created him, he linked him to the biosphere of every planet in the universe. That's what he draws his power from. His connection is so absolute that he's aware when a planet is destroyed and it pains him.

His control over biospheric energy is so complete, he can even absorb it after it's been synthezied into other forms of energy like the Power Cosmic.

This isn't my opinion or speculation, it's all happened on panel.

My OPINION is that I think he would destroy Surtur with or without Twilight no matter how close he is to the Eternal Flame. The Casket is the big quesion mark because I don't know how Tyrant would react to it. IMHO, he could escape it or it would fail to trap him.

Surtur wins, hard.

The issues stating that Tyrant is linked to biospheric energy, which I think you are grossly overplaying, were so horribly written that no writer has been able to pull Tyrant from that mess and make him a workable character. Tyrant is a complete write-off as a character.

And Surtur still stomps him.

Surtur wins,having twilight and casket of winters it's a slaughter. DP tyrant is powered by bio energy of planets he is not universal, that's over playing him. DP is couple notches above Thanos, I put DP Tyrant right below Odin if that, but still tyrant is not going to beat this version Surtur.

Originally posted by Wodenson
The issues stating that Tyrant is linked to biospheric energy, which I think you are grossly overplaying, were so horribly written that no writer has been able to pull Tyrant from that mess and make him a workable character. Tyrant is a complete write-off as a character.

And Surtur still stomps him.

What's so horrible about that writing? He's a creation of Galactus and utilizes the same properties. He can be a workable character just like anybody else who has died in comics and made a return.

Originally posted by Wodenson
The issues stating that Tyrant is linked to biospheric energy, which I think you are grossly overplaying, were so horribly written that no writer has been able to pull Tyrant from that mess and make him a workable character. Tyrant is a complete write-off as a character.

And Surtur still stomps him.

The fact is that it was mentioned multiple time by both Galactus and Tyrant. Galactus was in fear of his life and the Surfer through a rapport they shared mentioned it.

Galactus fed on a planet that he said made him feel more powerful than he had in ages AND fought Tyrant on Galactus' home turf. And he still lost.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Surtur wins,having twilight and casket of winters it's a slaughter. DP tyrant is powered by bio energy of planets he is not universal, that's over playing him. DP is couple notches above Thanos, I put DP Tyrant right below Odin if that, but still tyrant is not going to beat this version Surtur.

How is he not universal if he draws power from the biosphere of every planet IN THE UNIVERSE? It's not like I'm making this up. It's right there on panel.

I believe Tyrant can pull this off.
Can someone inform me on the powers of the Casket?

Originally posted by Sundipped
I believe Tyrant can pull this off.
Can someone inform me on the powers of the Casket?

It's best showing was BFRing Odin and holding him.

Originally posted by zopzop
It's best showing was BFRing Odin and holding him.

Ok. Thread states no BFR so what's the next best showing?

Originally posted by Sundipped
Ok. Thread states no BFR so what's the next best showing?

That's about it. It creates blizzards on Earth too I think.

This scenario plays heavily in Surtur's favor, and he would probably win. In neutral space though, Tyrant takes this all day.

Dp Tyrant still

Originally posted by Sundipped
What's so horrible about that writing? He's a creation of Galactus and utilizes the same properties. He can be a workable character just like anybody else who has died in comics and made a return.

Are you kidding me? The fact that Morg regressed to being a ghetto thug with clever lines like, "Think again, butt-face" and calling Air-Walker a "nerd" should be sufficient.