The Istari

Started by shaber3 pages

The Istari were only around from halfway through the Third Age.

Originally posted by shaber
The Istari were only around from halfway through the Third Age.

well, i wasn't as specific but i did say after the first age...

the valar sent them to help those in middle earth, but the only ones that really did anything were gandalf and saruman even if saruman turned bad...what use were the others?

radagast friend to animals and the other 2 unknowns? nothing

The lesser three were much lesser in every respect.

so less in fact they weren't given names...other than fanfics guesses

Originally posted by Fëanor
so less in fact they weren't given names...other than fanfics guesses

The other two Istari?

😑

I think there is at least a short description and characterisation given in the Unfinished Tales, but they seem mostly defined by the characters of the Valar who sent them

As you are mentioning fanfics,
Alatar and Pallando would be great ideas for one - they leave a lot of room for own ideas and interpretations

Originally posted by Arroch
The other two Istari?

😑

I think there is at least a short description and characterisation given in the Unfinished Tales, but they seem mostly defined by the characters of the Valar who sent them

As you are mentioning fanfics,
Alatar and Pallando would be great ideas for one - they leave a lot of room for own ideas and interpretations

i can't recall that description. aside from the two primaries what purpose did the other three serve...Radagast was a friend to animals and such, but their purposes were in my estimate a confusional state...no mention but theoritical guesses...

Did Tolkien name those two: Alatar, Pallando or was it his son? The name, just doesn't sound Tolkienish..

Originally posted by Fëanor
Did Tolkien name those two: Alatar, Pallando or was it his son? The name, just doesn't sound Tolkienish..

No, that was Tolkien himself 🙂
Most names with "o", especially with "ndo" at the end, dont sound very tolkienish... theyre too proud, too noble ^^

lol too proud,

but i think we answered the question, but i wish we knew what happened to the bleeding blue wizards

Discos - why was there "2" blue wizards,

Originally posted by Arroch
No, that was Tolkien himself 🙂
Most names with "o", especially with "ndo" at the end, dont sound very tolkienish... theyre too proud, too noble ^^

thanks...just that the names sort of go off on a tangent compared to gandalfs and saruman, but i prefer their maia names in valinor...

I found this map in my map liberary I made a red arrow to point out wat I found out

wasint he one of the blue wizards?

Exactly, Alatar was one of the Blue Wizards

But I'm having my doubts about this map - I wonder where the author took the information from?

~ the map isn't really correct... certainly not the eastern part. The south (south of the socalled "kingdom of Umbar"😉 also doesn't agree with the other maps Tolkien drew...

Most strange are the names in the East - absolutely un-tolkienish. Ja, Garakhi, Chhepegnib - Tolkien would never call regions names like that. Chh?!?

Sry, but this map looks very ff-ish to me.

It's still a cool map. I wish more was written about the East, bit i guess that's what's fan fics are for.

it looks like pangea(sp) but tolkienized...