Originally posted by Sundipped
Damn Prime. They did ya wrong this time. I got the feeling he's not going to stay in the source wall though.celeyhvqa17 Why did you say he's murdered? He's not dead.
They will relaunch everything so he will stay there forever ^^. Though if anyone can free himself without assitance even from the SW it's him.
Prime. Although DC did job him out bad in this recent issue, it was wildly inconsistent with his other showings.
Somehow the teen titans were able to take him out when every Legionaire x 3 + superman and ion with 1000 years of experience were barely able to do it last time? Then there was the fact that they implied that kryptonite from their universe would do anything to Prime. It's like the writers wrote a different character-- I mean since when did he use strategies like he did in that issue? He just wrecks teams. No prep. He just does it, and he succeeds until some extenuating circumstance like a suicidal guardian, or a collective attack from three legions, or and exploding universe or something stops him... but this time he just got punched? Love or hate the character, but any comic reader should be able to see that none of that added up. Who ever wrote this didn't read any prior appearances Prime has made or just disregarded them completely. Regardless, he still trashes this team, unless one low, inconsistent showing is now equivalent to the retcon of an entire character.
The issue was very badly written, but there is enough in there to suggest that Prime was weakened while fighting at night, if you consider that some of the titans are actually quite stable at mid herald, the showing is not as abysmal as some of the haters like to think.
When Prime is empowered by direct sunlight he's at his best, the showing is a bad one for him, but does not directly erase the character as we know it.
Originally posted by Bentley
The issue was very badly written, but there is enough in there to suggest that Prime was weakened while fighting at night, if you consider that some of the titans are actually quite stable at mid herald, the showing is not as abysmal as some of the haters like to think.When Prime is empowered by direct sunlight he's at his best, the showing is a bad one for him, but does not directly erase the character as we know it.
it was pretty close to abysmal for me. he went from pushing planets to getting owned by a substantially smaller group compared to what we usually see him go up against.
i do agree that it does not erase his character... he's still a team buster and easily above high herald. they should have used a more creative plot device to take him out. i mean he got ko'd fer cryin out loud. when do u ever see him get ko'd like that? they should have had Conner and Kara do a minor sundip or something before knocking SMP out.
Originally posted by Bentley
The issue was very badly written, but there is enough in there to suggest that Prime was weakened while fighting at night, if you consider that some of the titans are actually quite stable at mid herald, the showing is not as abysmal as some of the haters like to think.
That does make sense. Also, if the continuity is in line with the last issue he appeared in, then he might have been weakened after the black lantern fight as well. But even so, it was still awful writing, especially when looked at along side his showings in arcs like SC.
Prime still stomps. And contrary to the beliefs in this thread, the Titans beating prime really wasn't THAT low of a showing. Phil said it best:
Originally posted by Philosophía
When getting dog-piled by a collective team of non-holding back Supergirl, Superboy, Wondergirl, Miss Martian, Kid Flash and more, while being entrapped by a magic lasso and being simultaneously attacked with red-sunlight energy by Red Star, all of this happening at night with him having no time to get to full power, is considered a low showing, well, you get the point on how powerful this guy really is.
Originally posted by Galan007
Prime still stomps. And contrary to the beliefs in this thread, the Titans beating prime really wasn't THAT low of a showing. Phil said it best:
One thing about it though he had on the AM armor which is supposed to feed him solar energy. Guess this model was basically crap compared to the previous 1. He ran through em with the other model and still turned it up a notch when the sun came up. Oh well...........
Originally posted by Prep-Man
How much was Cassie's Lasso a factor?
It kept him there, but in all honesty, if the writing wasn't so awful he should have just slung her away like he did while weakened in SC. His entire showing in this storyline was wildly inconsistent with his other showings as I said before. If it were consistent, the battlefield should have been littered with dead and injured titans and teams of top tiers should have been called by this point, just like every other time.
Originally posted by Sundipped...Except there was no solar energy to be gathered. Prime's appearances in TT took place entirely at night.
One thing about it though he had on the AM armor which is supposed to feed him solar energy. Guess this model was basically crap compared to the previous 1. He ran through em with the other model and still turned it up a notch when the sun came up. Oh well...........
Originally posted by Galan007The gathering part makes no sense. It probably doesn't produce energy but I was always under the impression it stored and fed him energy. Pretty sure the "feeding" him part was mentioned aloud at least once.
^ The armor just helps him gather solar energy faster. It doesn't produce the energy.
Originally posted by BentleyReasonably sensible... if it weren't for the fact that some of Prime's best feats were performed when he wasn't under direct yellow sunlight.
When Prime is empowered by direct sunlight he's at his best, the showing is a bad one for him, but does not directly erase the character as we know it.
Did I mention the writing was crap? 😄
As mentioned before, being beaten down by the Titans isn't that far from getting almost defeated by Superman, Power Girl and Supergirl, which he did with an armor and without direct sunlight. After he touched the sunlight they just couldn't beat him anymore.
Ask yourself, is this showing really that different from that powerwise?