Thanos vs Hulk

Originally posted by Stoic
What about when the Merged Hulk began taking it to Thanos, and the only way for Thanos to get him off was to shrink him to the size of a mouse?

I'm trying to understand your statement. Are you saying that Thanos or Mar-Vell is in Galactus' tier in terms of power? If you are going to say yes, I would like to know where you came upon this opinion? Perhaps it's because Mar-Vell tooled Nova, and the Surfer? Do you recall Red Hulk tooling the Surfer with greater ease than Thanos did? Do you recall Red Hulk breaking the Surfers neck like a twig? Do you recall the Green Hulk tooling the very same Red Hulk? I recall all of those things, and I also recall the Green Hulk (Banner) being far more powerful in the Incredible Hulks 634, than he was in Hulk 24.

Yeah it might be a fight, but Banner would end up being the one giving Thanos the Voorhees choke, not the other way around.

Originally posted by Nihilist
More proof of you lying and ignoring context, i already corrected you on this...Rulk drained not, beatdown Surfer. Thanos killed him and Surfer had only just got his power cosmic when Rulk drained him.

The Surfer that just got his power was still on the same physical tier as he was when Thanos beat him up, and when Mar-Vell tooled him.

Red Hulk was also draining Banner in Hulk 24, but that still did not stop him from taking the @SS whipping.

Rulk broke the Surfers neck like a twig, and if the Surfer were drained of all of his power, why did he not return to his humanoid form like he did when the High Evolutionary recently drained him of his power?

You already corrected whom? You must be talking about someone else, or I missed whatever downplay on the Hulk that you imagined.

Originally posted by Nihilist
More proof of you lying and ignoring context, i already corrected you on this...Rulk drained not, beatdown Surfer. Thanos killed him and Surfer had only just got his power cosmic when Rulk drained him.

Also I should have just ignored your post, as it did nothing to answer any of the questions posed in my earlier post.

Originally posted by Stoic
[B]The Surfer that just got his power was still on the same physical tier as he was when Thanos beat him up, and when Mar-Vell tooled him.

Red Hulk was also draining Banner in Hulk 24, but that still did not stop him from taking the @SS whipping.

Rulk broke the Surfers neck like a twig, and if the Surfer were drained of all of his power, why did he not return to his humanoid form like he did when the High Evolutionary recently drained him of his power?

You already corrected whom? You must be talking about someone else, or I missed whatever downplay on the Hulk that you imagined.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Get it right Thanos killed him. Surfer wasnt in the same tier as when Thanos/Marvell tooled him stop making stuff up again, Surfer had his power for like minutes when Rulk jumped him

They same Rulk that killed that same Hulk once and beat him down breaking his arm. Rulk that Hulk beat in Hulk #24 had been depowered/tricked into being in a flase mental state.

Rulk snapped his neck AFTER his drained his power rendering him powerless. Hmm why didnt he revert back to human form, maybe the fact Loeb is a shit writer and doesnt know jack afterall he didnt even know Elder cant die or how to spell a elders name.

Corrected you on every Thanos feat you try to use, I dont down play the Hulk as i concentrate on using Thanos feats, whilst you try to use low showings.

Surfer wasn't in the same power tier as when Thanos, and Mar-Vell beatr him? Yes he was, he lacked only experience. In case I am wrong, give me an example of him being in a different tier, because I must have missed this.

Red Hulk was never depowered first of all. In Hulk 24 we clearly see him draining WW Hulk,and that it was clearly the Savage Hulk that the Red Hulk beat down several times. Get the story right.

You say that Red Hulk snapped his neck after draining his power, but it was Red Hulk that also took hits to the face from Thor. Blows that in fact would have launched the Surfer and your boy Thanos through a steel wall, and yet Red Hulk stood there with a smile.

I'll say it again, the Red Hulk was never DE-POWERED, it was a head game that Banner played on him, and he still possesses the same powers as he did from the start. Ross simply does not use his powers to their fullest these days for fear of losing the ability to revert to his human form.

By the way it was mentioned that even the Elders were capable of dying, back in Thanos Quest when he aged the Runner. They are simply dificult to kill, but they can die. Loeb was not incorrect, you are.

Low showings? It wasn't me that claimed that Thanos was so much more powerful that the hulk because he head butted him into the Thing. You use that feat, yet forget that the merged Hulk (far weaker than IH's 634 Hulk) put Thanos down, and that the only way that Thanos got him off was by reducing him to the size of a mouse.

This same mouse sized hulk was able to nearly KO a full sized Abomination.

Recently in the Avengers just after Red Hulk was beaten by a guy with the Power Gem, he mentioned that no one present was as strong as he was, and that included Thor... uhm the Surfer and Thor are equals in my opinion. Again the Hulk from Incredible Hulks 634 was far, far, far above the Red Hulk who he beat in Hulk 24.

I can admit that Thanos would give him a fight, and beat many incarnations of the Hulk, just not the Hulk of 634. Love it or Hate it, the Hulk can exceed Thanos in strength, and it has been mentioned on panel, that the Hulk grows more durable as he grows in power.

Originally posted by Stoic
[B]Surfer wasn't in the same power tier as when Thanos, and Mar-Vell beatr him? Yes he was, he lacked only experience. In case I am wrong, give me an example of him being in a different tier, because I must have missed this.

Red Hulk was never depowered first of all. In Hulk 24 we clearly see him draining WW Hulk,and that it was clearly the Savage Hulk that the Red Hulk beat down several times. Get the story right.

You say that Red Hulk snapped his neck after draining his power, but it was Red Hulk that also took hits to the face from Thor. Blows that in fact would have launched the Surfer and your boy Thanos through a steel wall, and yet Red Hulk stood there with a smile.

I'll say it again, the Red Hulk was never DE-POWERED, it was a head game that Banner played on him, and he still possesses the same powers as he did from the start. Ross simply does not use his powers to their fullest these days for fear of losing the ability to revert to his human form.

By the way it was mentioned that even the Elders were capable of dying, back in Thanos Quest when he aged the Runner. They are simply dificult to kill, but they can die. Loeb was not incorrect, you are.

Low showings? It wasn't me that claimed that Thanos was so much more powerful that the hulk because he head butted him into the Thing.

You use that feat, yet forget that the merged Hulk (far weaker than IH's 634 Hulk) put Thanos down, and that the only way that Thanos got him off was by reducing him to the size of a mouse.

This same mouse sized hulk was able to nearly KO a full sized Abomination.

Recently in the Avengers just after Red Hulk was beaten by a guy with the Power Gem, he mentioned that no one present was as strong as he was, and that included Thor... uhm the Surfer and Thor are equals in my opinion. Again the Hulk from Incredible Hulks 634 was far, far, far above the Red Hulk who he beat in Hulk 24.

I can admit that Thanos would give him a fight, and beat many incarnations of the Hulk, just not the Hulk of 634. Love it or Hate it, the Hulk can exceed Thanos in strength, and it has been mentioned on panel, that the Hulk grows more durable as he grows in power.

Originally posted by Nihilist
The guy didnt even know how to use the power cosmic, so why dont give me any feat from that newb Surfer showing he was as formidable, oh thats right he did nothing as he was atotal newb

Duh why do you think i said mental state was effected as he THOUGHT he was depowered thus doubting everything he did or could do.

Rulk was draining the Odin power from Thor when Thor hit him, and 😂 at getting the Thanos feat wrong again, he knocked him into a wall which Thanos smiled at plus Thor had the power gem.

So he held back and was doubting himself.

facepalmAnother feat youve got wrong, Thanos never mentioned nothing about the Elders dying, he said about aging the Runner to a million years old making him frail and decrepid

Ive only used it a proof Thanos want affraid to confront the Hulk when he got chance, and dont give me "its not the savage Hulk" as Thanos had never met the Hulk before When Drax and Hulk jumped Hulk from behind and when he was fighting multiple heroes at once giving them a chance. Plus Hulk did nothing but knock him over, more context that goes over your head.

So?

So, you act as if your bias opinion is fact. And Thor beat Red Hulk down so..

Hulk durability still isnt near Thanos, why do you always think its just down to strength(prolly to aid Hulks 1 dimensional argument) its not like Thanos hasnt got awesome energy feats.

I can see how you got everything that I wrote wrong. Thanks for reminding me of the second time that Thor knocked Thanos for a loop, the first time was during the Death of Captain Mar-Vell.

That Surfer that you want to call newbie was doing fine against Terrax, so nah your rebuttal is an EPIC FAIL!!! Red Hulk simply has the Stuff to bust his @ss, and Thor's, or did you miss Thor wailing on Red Hulk while Ross just sat there and took it without fighting back?

Thor beat Rulk after Rulk beat him, and the Savage Hulk, come again??? You do know that he was over-heating right? Context.

First of all Banner never told Rulk anything about his powers until after he beat him down. What happened in Hulk 24 was the same Red Hulk that beat the Watcher, Surfer, Thor, Abomination, Grand Master, Savage Hulk, Ironman... and all of those Super Chicks. It may even be plausible that since the Hulk (Banner) can now control his transformations that he could beat the Surfer, because let's face it, Arm'Cheddon drained him and he remained the Hulk, and so did Red Hulk... I do not see why it would be implausible for him to remain the Hulk even if the Surfer drained him as well, because the Hulk is actually tapping his powers from an inexhaustible source. Another reason why he keeps growing more powerful as he gets more excited.

First of all The Hulk isn't as one dimensional as you try to make him. You are either ignorant of the hulk's powers or you simply don't know the character. The Hulk has vast psychic defenses as seen on panel several time, as well as mystical resistances as seen recently in IH's 633 when he took it to the Nameless Ones or whatever you call those juggernauts that he easily dispatched. Durability isn't the only thing that he can do, he also has ranged attacks, did you see him even touch Wendigo, Bi-Beast, Arm'Cheddon, or Fin Fang Foom? Nope he turned them to dust with only the power leaking out of him. No proof to back that statement huh? Do you recall the feat that pulled off when he wrecked Arm'Cheddon's battle ship? Oh and he was holding back.

The merged Hulk did more than knock Thanos over, he was hammering the shyt out of him, and even told Thanos how he didn't know why everyone was making such a big deal about him... and that is when Thanos reduced him to the size of a mouse.

I have never seen Thanos unaided by a chalice, Gem, or, Cube have the ability to take more power than the power that was released in the Dark Dimension... pfft, like I said before Thanos was dropped by less force when he visited the Kylln by an incomplete, or weakened Beyonder. You remember when he was flattened by a blast that only created a crater? You think that blast would have even stunned the Juggernaut? Well so much for all of that uber durability.

I have a question... How many durability feats can Thanos truly claim without the use of those nifty shields of his? Good question huh?

Originally posted by Stoic
I can see how you got everything that I wrote wrong. Thanks for reminding me of the second time that Thor knocked Thanos for a loop, the first time was during the Death of Captain Mar-Vell.

That Surfer that you want to call newbie was doing fine against Terrax, so nah your rebuttal is an EPIC FAIL!!! Red Hulk simply has the Stuff to bust his @ss, and Thor's, or did you miss Thor wailing on Red Hulk while Ross just sat there and took it without fighting back?

Thor beat Rulk after Rulk beat him, and the Savage Hulk, come again??? You do know that he was over-heating right? Context.

First of all Banner never told Rulk anything about his powers until after he beat him down. What happened in Hulk 24 was the same Red Hulk that beat the Watcher, Surfer, Thor, Abomination, Grand Master, Savage Hulk, Ironman... and all of those Super Chicks. It may even be plausible that since the Hulk (Banner) can now control his transformations that he could beat the Surfer, because let's face it, Arm'Cheddon drained him and he remained the Hulk, and so did Red Hulk... I do not see why it would be implausible for him to remain the Hulk even if the Surfer drained him as well, because the Hulk is actually tapping his powers from an inexhaustible source. Another reason why he keeps growing more powerful as he gets more excited.

First of all The Hulk isn't as one dimensional as you try to make him. You are either ignorant of the hulk's powers or you simply don't know the character. The Hulk has vast psychic defenses as seen on panel several time, as well as mystical resistances as seen recently in IH's 633 when he took it to the Nameless Ones or whatever you call those juggernauts that he easily dispatched. Durability isn't the only thing that he can do, he also has ranged attacks, did you see him even touch Wendigo, Bi-Beast, Arm'Cheddon, or Fin Fang Foom? Nope he turned them to dust with only the power leaking out of him. No proof to back that statement huh? Do you recall the feat that pulled off when he wrecked Arm'Cheddon's battle ship? Oh and he was holding back.

The merged Hulk did more than knock Thanos over, he was hammering the shyt out of him, and even told Thanos how he didn't know why everyone was making such a big deal about him... and that is when Thanos reduced him to the size of a mouse.

I have never seen Thanos unaided by a chalice, Gem, or, Cube have the ability to take more power than the power that was released in the Dark Dimension... pfft, like I said before Thanos was dropped by less force when he visited the Kylln by an incomplete, or weakened Beyonder. You remember when he was flattened by a blast that only created a crater? You think that blast would have even stunned the Juggernaut? Well so much for all of that uber durability.

I have a question... How many durability feats can Thanos truly claim without the use of those nifty shields of his? Good question huh?

Good post and Nihilist doesn't know what he is talking about. Rulk didn't lose (or think he lost) his draining ability until AFTER he faced WWH. Rulk never beat WWH, he defeated Savage though.

Thor defeated a Rulk that wasn't using his absorption abilities. Thor first fight against Rulk, he got stomped and then he snuck attack him the second go round when he was overheating and fighting Savage.

Then he states that Hulk doesn't have energy output when we clearly see energy base attacks leaking from his body on numerous of occasions, even after the Sentry fight.

The only advantage Thanos have in this fight is his blast and there is nothing shown on panel that would make me even think that his blasting power would drop the Hulk whereas Hulk energy output was melting Heralds. This all boils down to punches and kicks and wince Hulk is stronger by a large degree...Thanos is losing.

Originally posted by carver9
Good post and Nihilist doesn't know what he is talking about. Rulk didn't lose (or think he lost) his draining ability until AFTER he faced WWH. Rulk never beat WWH, he defeated Savage though.

Thor defeated a Rulk that wasn't using his absorption abilities. Thor first fight against Rulk, he got stomped and then he snuck attack him the second go round when he was overheating and fighting Savage.

Then he states that Hulk doesn't have energy output when we clearly see energy base attacks leaking from his body on numerous of occasions, even after the Sentry fight.

The only advantage Thanos have in this fight is his blast and there is nothing shown on panel that would make me even think that his blasting power would drop the Hulk whereas Hulk energy output was melting Heralds. This all boils down to punches and kicks and wince Hulk is stronger by a large degree...Thanos is losing.

I agree with most of what you said. I however have to give credit where it is due. Thanos would beat many incarnations of the Hulk, but he would have to do so before the Hulk reached a certain level of power. This new Hulk, does not need any time to ramp up to levels that surpass the power which Thanos dodged in Thanos Quest (Champion's planet dusting punch). <--- Thanos did dodge it. Also the beating that Odin gave Thanos can't compare to the destructive yield that happened within the Dark Dimension.

Originally posted by Stoic
I agree with most of what you said. I however have to give credit where it is due. Thanos would beat many incarnations of the Hulk, but he would have to do so before the Hulk reached a certain level of power. This new Hulk, does not need any time to ramp up to levels that surpass the power which Thanos dodged in Thanos Quest (Champion's planet dusting punch). <--- Thanos did dodge it. Also the beating that Odin gave Thanos can't compare to the destructive yield that happened within the Dark Dimension.

I agree with that as well. I don't think he could beat WWH though. That's just my personal thought on the matter.

Originally posted by carver9

Thor defeated a Rulk that wasn't using his absorption abilities. Thor first fight against Rulk, he got stomped and then he snuck attack him the second go round when he was overheating and fighting Savage.

Don't pay him any heed.

Thor put the boot straps to Rulk.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Don't pay him any heed.

Thor put the boot straps to Rulk.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Don't pay him any heed.

Thor put the boot straps to Rulk.

😠 What I stated is nothing but the truth.

Originally posted by carver9
😠 What I stated is nothing but the truth.

In Carver-Vision.

Originally posted by Stoic
[B]I can see how you got everything that I wrote wrong. Thanks for reminding me of the second time that Thor knocked Thanos for a loop, the first time was during the Death of Captain Mar-Vell.

That Surfer that you want to call newbie was doing fine against Terrax, so nah your rebuttal is an EPIC FAIL!!!

Red Hulk simply has the Stuff to bust his @ss,

[and Thor's, or did you miss Thor wailing on Red Hulk while Ross just sat there and took it without fighting back? .[quote]When draining the Odin force and empowering him self, more context fail.

[quote]Thor beat Rulk after Rulk beat him, and the Savage Hulk, come again??? You do know that he was over-heating right? Context.

First of all Banner never told Rulk anything about his powers until after he beat him down. What happened in Hulk 24 was the same Red Hulk that beat the Watcher, Surfer, Thor, Abomination, Grand Master, Savage Hulk, Ironman... and all of those Super Chicks. It may even be plausible that since the Hulk (Banner) can now control his transformations that he could beat the Surfer, because let's face it, Arm'Cheddon drained him and he remained the Hulk, and so did Red Hulk... I do not see why it would be implausible for him to remain the Hulk even if the Surfer drained him as well, because the Hulk is actually tapping his powers from an inexhaustible source. Another reason why he keeps growing more powerful as he gets more excited.

First of all The Hulk isn't as one dimensional as you try to make him. You are either ignorant of the hulk's powers or you simply don't know the character. The Hulk has vast psychic defenses as seen on panel several time, as well as mystical resistances as seen recently in IH's 633 when he took it to the Nameless Ones or whatever you call those juggernauts that he easily dispatched. Durability isn't the only thing that he can do, he also has ranged attacks, did you see him even touch Wendigo, Bi-Beast, Arm'Cheddon, or Fin Fang Foom? Nope he turned them to dust with only the power leaking out of him. No proof to back that statement huh? Do you recall the feat that pulled off when he wrecked Arm'Cheddon's battle ship? Oh and he was holding back

The merged Hulk did more than knock Thanos over, he was hammering the shyt out of him, and even told Thanos how he didn't know why everyone was making such a big deal about him... and that is when Thanos reduced him to the size of a mouse.

I have never seen Thanos unaided by a chalice, Gem, or, Cube have the ability to take more power than the power that was released in the Dark Dimension... pfft

like I said before Thanos was dropped by less force when he visited the Kylln by an incomplete, or weakened Beyonder. You remember when he was flattened by a blast that only created a crater? You think that blast would have even stunned the Juggernaut? Well so much for all of that uber durability.

I have a question... How many durability feats can Thanos truly claim without the use of those nifty shields of his? Good question huh?

Those are just a few.

Originally posted by carver9
Good post and Nihilist doesn't know what he is talking about. Rulk didn't lose (or think he lost) his draining ability until AFTER he faced WWH. Rulk never beat WWH, he defeated Savage though.

Thor defeated a Rulk that wasn't using his absorption abilities. Thor first fight against Rulk, he got stomped and then he snuck attack him the second go round when he was overheating and fighting Savage.

Then he states that Hulk doesn't have energy output when we clearly see energy base attacks leaking from his body on numerous of occasions, even after the Sentry fight.

The only advantage Thanos have in this fight is his blast and there is nothing shown on panel that would make me even think that his blasting power would drop the Hulk whereas Hulk energy output was melting Heralds. This all boils down to punches and kicks and wince Hulk is stronger by a large degree...Thanos is losing.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Don't pay him any heed.

Thor put the boot straps to Rulk.

Hey if thor was as strong as Rulk, why was it written in the the Avengers, with Thor present, that no one there was as strong as the Red Hulk? Thor would have said something to the contrary no? He just stood there and ate it though. Red Hulk is still as powerful as he ever was, nothings changed. Not saying Red would dust Thor, but if they had it out again, the fight should be the same, and it's not as if I'm willing to believe that if Thor fought Thanos, that Thanos would just have his way with him either.

Originally posted by Nihilist
You mean when he needed Thing to help him when the both hit Thanos together doing no harm again the weakest version of Thanos, more context fail

Theres your proof right there. Surfer has constantly been shown to be far far superior to Terrax. By draining him no less. its funny you say Surfer is a b*tch for draining Hulk yet Rulk does some draining and it OMZGS AWESOME. Thor beat Rulk in parkers run iirc, and Thor was handing Rulk his ass, Hulk only stepped in when he saw Rulk overheating knowing that was his chance.

Most of this post just hope and speculation.

All he can really do is punch shit, that all his offense offers, his energy leaking wont do shit to Thanos
Knocked him over but did no damage at all, 😂 if you think Proof Hulk could of put Thanos down were far stronger beings couldnt with more hits( chance are youll still ignore all that)

Ive already told you he released he enough energy that made the 616 scream when he killed the Rot which wasdestroying the Universe 616>>>>>>>>>Deark dimension, lulz, again with the wrong feats the Beyonders power wasnt incomplete or weakened Beyonder only her form was weak(something else ive corrected you on twice now. You do know the version of the Beyonder had the power to reverse the Chrunch energies and restart the universe. Juggs was koed by being THROWN by Onlsaught and Ko'd by Nimrod...none of that shit would have effected Thanos.

Hah it a shit question showing your complete lack of knowledge about a character whos feats your tryingf to use.
Some feats with "aids"
Tanking a gas gaint exploding
Tanking 3 planetry explosinon(1 in his weakest form, 2 when Magus and Wrlock fighting over the IG 3, when Tyrant base exploded.
Beings inside a black hole when it completely closed on him.
Tanking over 15 energy amped punches for a doppleganger more powerfull than him.
Tanking 2 hits from the Magus powered by 5 infinity gems
Waling through Oidn blast
Standing up to Walker th Death gods blast
Getting hit with a full force Surfer blast and laughing, same with Geins Vell
Only just getting Ko'd by a cosmic cube whilst in a weakened state

Those are just a few.

None of anything that you wrote was any more than lies. Your rebuttal is dismissed.

Originally posted by Stoic
Hey if thor was as strong as Rulk, why was it written in the the Avengers, with Thor present, that no one there was as strong as the Red Hulk? Thor would have said something to the contrary no? He just stood there and ate it though.