Darth Sion vs Darth Krayt (post-rebirth)

Originally posted by Zampanó
Remember, Sion hunted down Jedi who survived the Civil War. This means that he is much more used to fighting lightsaber-wielding foes. Additionally, there has been less time for Revan's techniques and teachings to be lost.

Not sure if serious.

Both serious.

Originally posted by Zampanó
Remember, Sion hunted down Jedi who survived the Civil War. This means that he is much more used to fighting lightsaber-wielding foes. Additionally, there has been less time for Revan's techniques and teachings to be lost.

I don't mean to be pedantic, but Krayt's master was one of the original Sith, Xoxaan. That says a hell of a lot for him.

We've seen Krayt defeat a bevy of skilled enemies as well (Darth Wyyrlok, Cade Skywalker, etc) and cut down four Imperial knights simultaneously, including a rather high ranking one. But...mooks, yes. Who of note has Sion killed on his own?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
I don't mean to be pedantic, but Krayt's master was one of the [b]original Sith, Xoxaan. That says a hell of a lot for him.

We've seen Krayt defeat a bevy of skilled enemies as well (Darth Wyyrlok, Cade Skywalker, etc) and cut down four Imperial knights simultaneously, including a rather high ranking one. But...mooks, yes. Who of note has Sion killed on his own? [/B]

Half the Jedi Order.

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Originally posted by Zampanó
Remember, Sion hunted down Jedi who survived the Civil War. This means that he is much more used to fighting lightsaber-wielding foes.

And Krayt ran his own purge, as well as being one of the Clone War's better lightsaber fighters in his youth.

Originally posted by Q99
So... does anyone think Sion has a chance? Or are we pretty clear that Krayt can deal with his immortality with superior powers?

I have always argued that Sion's powers originate from darkside nexuses.

"As long as the dark places of this world (Malachor V) flow through the cracks of my flesh, I can not be killed."

So unless this fight takes place on such a planet I'd say Krayt. If the fight was on Korriban, I wouldn't think he could somehow overpower Sion's powers.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Half the Jedi Order.

Spoiler:
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Doubtful. IIRC, after the Jedi Civil War there were only about a hundred Jedi survivors. Most were killed at Katarr.

👆

With regards to Sion's immortality.

Originally posted by Q99
And Krayt ran his own purge, as well as being one of the Clone War's better lightsaber fighters in his youth.

Spoiler:
lol

Doubtful. IIRC, after the Jedi Civil War there were only about a hundred Jedi survivors. Most were killed at Katarr.

For the record, I was joking.

I figured. But posted just in case. 😛

Also, I think the numbers of the Jedi Order went from 10k to about 250-300 before the Katarr incident. It's not stated explicitly how many died on Katarr, but I doubt it was even half of that number. A small conclave visited; the majority of the casualties were Miralukans.

Kreia stated that barely 100 jedi remained AFTER the JCW.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Also, I think the numbers of the Jedi Order went from 10k to about 250-300 before the Katarr incident.

Yeah, like Mcbeefy said, Kreia says only around 100 hundred were left after the JCW.

It's not stated explicitly how many died on Katarr, but I doubt it was even half of that number. A small conclave visited; the majority of the casualties were Miralukans.

I don't have my KotOR campaign guide on me right now, but at one point is says most of the one hundred remaining Jedi were killed at Katarr.

Edit: I think it was in Vandar's information.

No, you're right on that:

"The Jedi Civil War destroyed the Jedi. By the war's end, barely a hundred Jedi remained. Many fell in battle… and many more were seduced by Revan's teachings."
―Kreia

I seem to be under the impression that more survived the JCW which took place years before the events of KotOR II, during which the First Jedi Purge reduced those numbers to almost nothing.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose

Spoiler:
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Yea, note how it's force, not saber that does the job 🙂 Hett was pretty high-level with a saber at the time.

And of course Krayt's more experienced, massively stronger in the force, then gets to learn shatterpoints and all that on top.

ares834

So unless this fight takes place on such a planet I'd say Krayt. If the fight was on Korriban, I wouldn't think he could somehow overpower Sion's powers.

Even if he attacked his mind?

Originally posted by Q99
Yea, note how it's force, not saber that does the job 🙂 Hett was pretty high-level with a saber at the time.

Jan says he cut of his arm with his saber.

http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/janduursema/?read=9780&expand=0

Even if he attacked his mind?

It could be possible. I just don't see it happening.

Originally posted by ares834
Jan says he cut of his arm with his saber.

http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/janduursema/?read=9780&expand=0

It could be possible. I just don't see it happening.

Did Jan write the comic or something? Because otherwise he/she is flat out wrong.

Or pretty crappy at making things clear to the audience.

It's so obvious that Obi-Wan blew his arm off. There is literally nothing the motion there that implies he cut it off.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Did Jan write the comic or something? Because otherwise he/she is flat out wrong.

Or pretty crappy at making things clear to the audience.

Jan's the artist. 😐

Yes, it's not clear but her intention was that Obi-Wan cut of his arm.

Originally posted by ares834
Jan's the artist. 😐

Yes, it's not clear but her intention was that Obi-Wan cut of his arm.

Well she failed at sequential storytelling with that one. If shed meant that she should of made it, well I can't say clearer because literally nothing but her word points to it being cut off. So she should have redrew the thing. At least show some cauterisation or something. Why the hell would Kenobi even need to force push an already severed arm? Is he afraid it'll go Evil Dead on him or something?

So what do we think is the canon f this? Did Kenobi cut it off like the artist said or did he push it off like it looks?

There's obviously some force used in any case, and "Gave Obi-wan at his best a tough fight 140 years before becoming far stronger," is not a negative mark on the resume.

Originally posted by ares834

It could be possible. I just don't see it happening.

He does have that same force-illusion thing going for him of the type that Wyyrlok used to actually kill Andeddu. It's a rather strong power.