Originally posted by the DarkoneSeems kinda stupid tbh, if he outlives Eternity he outlives the universe.
Yes it means even the abstrcts, there was a debate Thanos vs Mr Immortal, and somebody showed a scan about Mr. Immortal that he will out live everybody and everything. I could be wrong, but to my understanding Mr Immortal is a out right Immortal.
Originally posted by Nihilist
It did with Thanos during Imperative. Lol, Odin was immortal untill he died aswell,the same as the Elder gods of the cancerverse imortality..untill Death killed them.Fact her abstract power is above his.
Against an enemy who lived in an universe with no Death. That's like saying Drax's or Martyr's abilities will work on anyone.
Originally posted by BentleyDrax abilties are totally different to Thanos he was only called the avatar of life due to apposing Thanos in his death crusades, Drax was never empowered/openly backed by any abstract. As you know he was created by the god of titan to do a job against Thanos thats all.
Against an enemy who lived in an universe with no Death. That's like saying Drax's or Martyr's abilities will work on anyone.
Phyla was simply tricked into being avatar of death by Maelstrom/Oblivion into releasing Thanos. She had no connection to death or contact with her at all.
Wrong in both accounts. Drax was clearly stated to be backed by life when he fought Thanos in the TI, they even went on explaining he couldn't control himself because of all that life in the Multiverse. Back when Magus had captured Martyr and the rest of the GotG, she made a run for it by using her avatar powers.
So feel free to recheck, I can put up the scans if you want to.
Originally posted by BentleyNot at all. Drax wasnt in control because of the life in the cancerverse yes, but he still wasnt backed by any life entity abstract thats why he had to use the antimatter bomb.
Wrong in both accounts. Drax was clearly stated to be backed by life when he fought Thanos in the TI, they even went on explaining he couldn't control himself because of all that life in the Multiverse. Back when Magus had captured Martyr and the rest of the GotG, she made a run for it by using her avatar powers.So feel free to recheck, I can put up the scans if you want to.
Her avatar power were simply not the same, to be a avatar of Death which she was, she had to back or at least have some connection to Death herself, which she never she was made avatar by oblivion.
Please do post the scans, while youre at it post the scan of death making Phyla her avatar.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Her avatar power were simply not the same, to be a avatar of Death which she was, she had to back or at least have some connection to Death herself, which she never she was made avatar by oblivion.Please do post the scans, while youre at it post the scan of death making Phyla her avatar.
Now, I was looking for those scans only to read your response and notice that is only raving speculation 😬
Is Phyla the Avatar of Death? YES. Does that made her do anything overly special or Thanos level, did that Avatarhood played any important part in any of her combats? NO.
Simple. Avatarhood has nothing to do with increasing powers in any particular way, unless you're using your powers against a certain kind of explicit opponent, such as the ones Thanos faced during the TI. That's all we saw on panel and I'm certainly not extrapolating any further for the benefit of Thanos.
Originally posted by BentleySimply because she was never a TRUE avatar of death, only in name due to Oblivion and not Deat herself.
Is Phyla the Avatar of Death? YES. Does that made her do anything overly special or Thanos level, did that Avatarhood played any important part in any of her combats? NO.
Prove that Death needs to do the naming herself, prove that Phyla was less boosted than Thanos and that such power came from being an Avatar. All that sounds like speculation to me, I have never seen a single comic pointing towards such interpretation.
Phyla was dead when she got the avatar powers. Feel free to bring an scan of Death making Thanos her avatar.
Originally posted by BentleyIt was made clear Thanos was made avatar when in Thanos own words she "sent he back to the light." Even Surfer and Marvell called him the avatar of death, Marvell saying they had bee searching for him for ages.
Prove that Death needs to do the naming herself, prove that Phyla was less boosted than Thanos and that such power came from being an Avatar. All that sounds like speculation to me, I have never seen a single comic pointing towards such interpretation.
When Phyla was "deaths avatar" she was humbled by Magus who was Marvell inferior whom Thanos pwnd clearly showing the power gap and Thanos killed the so called avatar in one shot.
Phyla was dead when she got the avatar powers. Feel free to bring an scan of Death making Thanos her avatar. [/B]She got her power her power from Oblivion in a ruse, do you really see another abstract claiming a avatar they have no real connection with, for instance would Eternity ever make a avatar of Death, iirc didnt Oblivion have his own avatar in Maelstrom.