Originally posted by Robtard
The mini-sun Kilowog made had the same pull of a full-sized star, as per Kilowog's words.And I don't think Thor ever showed to have the power to escape a massive gravitational field or survive the heat of a star. Movie feats showing such?
If that's the case why didn't Hal just create one of those mini-suns and kill Parallax with that?
Hal aint creating no mini Sun!
His film proved that his creativity isn't even capable of it. His last feat was making fighter jets to help him move faster????? lol/
Mjolnir absobs energy which GL creates his constructs with. Thor absorbed the Destroyer's beam and pushed/released it into its visor causing it to comprimise and explode to the Earth.
Hal makes a shield and the hammer absorbs and breaks it.
Hammer to Hal's face and his passive shields get absorbed too. Dead Hal.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Hal aint creating no mini Sun!His film proved that his creativity isn't even capable of it. His last feat was making fighter jets to help him move faster????? lol/
Mjolnir absobs energy which GL creates his constructs with. Thor absorbed the Destroyer's beam and pushed/released it into its visor causing it to comprimise and explode to the Earth.
Hal makes a shield and the hammer absorbs and breaks it.
Hammer to Hal's face and his passive shields get absorbed too. Dead Hal.
Why not? He's seen it done; it's not hard to imagine and by the end of the film his will/confidence was strong.
See above, he's seen it done.
The Destroyer's beam has shit on a GL ring, dude. Shit. It's a powerful blast, nothing more. When has the hammer absorbed everything you claim? Energy shields, a mini-sun and such?
People still going balls-deep on Thor, eh.
Originally posted by Robtard
For the sake of the storyline and/or maybe a mini-sun wouldn't have been enough.It's well within his power though by the end of the film, his imagination and will are strong.
When did Hal create a mini Sun? I'm a projectionist so I've only seen the film out of a portglass window. So you made the presumption that Hal can make a mini Sun but refused to, to beat Parallax. He created a giant fist to push it into the Sun after his "epiphany"!
Plus Mjolnir would have a whole mini-sun to absorb and re-release into Hal. The explosion alone would send Hal flying. He still reeled after being pushed into a bus/van?
Originally posted by the ninjak
So you made the presumption that Hal can make a mini Sun but refused to, to beat Parallax. He created a giant fist to push it into the Sun after his "epiphany"!Plus Mjolnir would have a whole mini-sun to absorb and re-release into Hal. The exlosion alone would send Hal flying. He still reeled after being pushed into a bus/van?
No, the ring can create anything the user can imagine and will(we've also seen a mini-sun created); by the end of the film Hal is a bad-ass mofo with the ring. Watch the film again, though it sucks.
Again, when has Mjolnir shown this level of absorption? Did it even "absorb" the Destrpyer's beam to begin with or merely deflect it back, as this is what seems to have been implied. Hal was able to float extremely close to the Earth's sun with no apparent negative affects from the sun's gravitational pull or heat. So no.
Originally posted by Robtard
No, the ring can create anything the user can imagine and will(we've also seen a mini-sun created); by the end of the film Hal is a bad-ass mofo with the ring. Watch the film again, though it sucks.Again, when has Mjolnir shown this level of absorption? Didn't it even "absorb" the Destrpyer's beam to begin with or merely deflect it back, as this is what seems to have been implied. Hal was able to float extremely close to the Earth's sun with no apparent negative affects from the sun's gravitational pull or heat. So no.
Dude just cause Thor doesn't stand before the Sun even though his comic counterpart does it often(not using it) doesn't mean it can be used as a argument against Thor's durability.
People downplay Thor's takedown of the Destroyer in the film even though if Thor did the same thing to a unmanned Destroyer armor in the comics it would have had the done the same thing to take it down.
The hammer absorbs energy on a huge scale.
GL has no speed feats. Besides making wormholes to go to Oa and flying into Earth's orbit.
Thor flies strategically and fast. Hal makes a mini Sun even though he never did it. And Thor flies behind him while he is concentrating on the construct and deals the pain. Mini Sun gone and Hal is forced to rely on defence, which Mjolnir will break through.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Dude just cause Thor doesn't stand before the Sun even though his comic counterpart does it often(not using it) doesn't mean it can be used as a argument against Thor's durability.People downplay Thor's takedown of the Destroyer in the film even though if Thor did the same thing to a unmanned Destroyer armor in the comics it would have had the done the same thing to take it down.
The hammer absorbs energy on a huge scale.
GL has no speed feats. Besides making wormholes to go to Oa and flying into Earth's orbit.
Thor flies strategically and fast. Hal makes a mini Sun even though he never did it. And Thor flies behind him while he is concentrating on the construct and deals the pain. Mini Sun gone and Hal is forced to rely on defence, which Mjolnir will break through.
Yes it can. We go by "greatest feats" here; nothing in the film suggested Thor could withstand the destructive power of a sun.
The Destroyer wasn't all that impressive to begin with. It moved slowed, had a blast attack that killed some peeps and blew up a gas station. Way underpowered in the film.
Again, when has the hammer absorbed all the massive energies you claim? Name the scene(s).
Hal flew from the Earth to the Sun in what appeared to be about a minute, so that's shows incredible speed. Far Greater than Thor's couple hundred miles per hour(looked like).
If barreling hammer/head first is "strategic", then Thor is a blonde Sun ****ing Tzu. But you're basically scripting. Going from film feats, GL has just about every advantage here.
Dammit! He did fly to the Sun that fast didn't he? But showed crap maneuverability when he hit that asteroid?????
+ all he did while in such a lightspeed trip was
-throw a satelite....badly.
-fly through asteroids and crashed into one even though he saw it wayyyyy ahead of time.
-made it to the Sun. Wow talk about crap directing.
Show feats of a GL using that speed strategically. Instead of going from point A to B in a battle scenario.
Thor flew and dodged Destroyer's beam then hit the sky and performed a perfect takedown.
Hal and the other GLs flew solely to travel and never displayed such speed feats strategically. They flew straight to Parallax and used their constructs....poor form.
Thor will fly up and hit GL from behind the second he tries to make a mini Sun. Shatter his concentration and beat his head in.
Just give it up dude. GL was a shit movie; doesn't mean the character loses here.
GL could surround himself with a giant hard green penis and fly "straight" into Thor at several thousand miles per hour.
But making a mini-sun is one easy way to win here; he has countless others due to the possibilities of his imagination.
Hal only made simple constructs in the movie because that was his only point of reference.
Parallax was a being made of nothing but fear energy, and i doubt Hal's ring had the kind of capability to kill it. And he still won.
Movie Thor was impressive, but he wasn't exactly head and shoulders above the rest of the movie heroes.
Originally posted by Robtard
Thor can't react that fast.Could Thor smash it?
Could Thor get past GL's protective field? That thing is extremely resistant.
Thor winning this fight is a desperate reach at best.
As I already stated Mjolnir absorbs energy which Oan Will energy is made of.
And not a single GL in that movie moved that fast stratigically. Just move from point A to B.
Mjolnir had the power to obliterate his surroundings twice in the film once physical and as an EMP style flash.
As I said before Thor dodges Hal's constructs just he he dodged the Destroyer's beam and hit the air.
As Hal as you said attempts to make a mini sun Thor is already flying through the back of him smashing his shields apart with his energy absorbing hammer and caving his head in.
There is a big difference between a GL seeing the Sun, flying towards it and with confindence/will and making the ring adapt to the Sun's heat and gravity and-
Getting hit with forces on the fly in a battle scernario. Hal can't adapt to Mjolnir when he is making constructs and making shields. He doesn't know whats going to hit him and in this case it's a Hammer that can absorb energy and attack with devastating power.
With a GL it's all about adapting to what they see. And Thor won't give him the time to stop the offensive forms i've heard people give here.
Break a GL's concentration break his ability to use his ring. Mjolnir is perfect for this.