Thor vs. Hal Jordan

Started by Robtard5 pages

Originally posted by the ninjak
As I already stated Mjolnir absorbs energy which Oan Will energy is made of.

And not a single GL in that movie moved that fast stratigically. Just move from point A to B.

Mjolnir had the power to obliterate his surroundings twice in the film once physical and as an EMP style flash.
As I said before Thor dodges Hal's constructs just he he dodged the Destroyer's beam and hit the air.
As Hal as you said attempts to make a mini sun Thor is already flying through the back of him smashing his shields apart with his energy absorbing hammer and caving his head in.

There is a big difference between a GL seeing the Sun, flying towards it and with confindence/will and making the ring adapt to the Sun's heat and gravity and-

Getting hit with forces on the fly in a battle scernario. Hal can't adapt to Mjolnir when he is making constructs and making shields. He doesn't know whats going to hit him and in this case it's a Hammer that can absorb energy and attack with devastating power.

With a GL it's all about adapting to what they see. And Thor won't give him the time to stop the offensive forms i've heard people give here.

Break a GL's concentration break his ability to use his ring. Mjolnir is perfect for this.

No, you have yet to show this. It looks like it deflected the Destroyer's beam back into its body. Deflecting a blast is far different than this 'energy absorption powers' you're claiming.

Those "obliterating the surrounding" attacks won't likely do shit to GL's protective field.

Thor fights with a hammer, it's not hard for Hal to deduce how Thor will be attacking him and once again you have yet to prove that Mjolnir will be "absorbing" anything Hal can make.

You're scrapping the barrel cos you want your favorite here to win instead of going by who was superior on screen. It's getting tedious.

Hal makes a mini-sun, Thor is instantly fighting to not get sucked in and burned. Fight could end this quickly. BTW, Hal can travel faster than light, about 7-8 times faster.

Nah I know the Destroyer's beam disintergrates from his feats againts the Frost Giants at the beginning of Thor.

And Thor's ability to take the energy and push it back into its visor proved that Thor can absorb energy. Which is one of its trademarks.

As you said-

Originally posted by Robtard
GL could surround himself with a giant hard green penis and fly "straight" into Thor at several thousand miles per hour..

Thor dodges it and hits the sky, ready for a strategic takedown. He took down an unmanned Destroyer quickly after coming back to life and having all of his abilities returned.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hal makes a mini-sun, Thor is instantly fighting to not get sucked in and burned. Fight could end this quickly. BTW, Hal can travel faster than light, about 7-8 times faster.

Hal then attempts to make a mini-sun Thor pounds in behind him. Breaking his concentration and pounds his skull in with the enchanted energy absorbing hammer that can create huge kinetic bursts.

Hal and any other more mature GL never displayed using such speeds strategically in battle. Thor wins here. 🙂

Originally posted by the ninjak
Nah I know the Destroyer's beam disintergrates from his feats againts the Frost Giants at the beginning of Thor.

And Thor's ability to take the energy and push it back into its visor proved that Thor can absorb energy. Which is one of its trademarks.

As you said-

Thor dodges it and hits the sky, ready for a strategic takedown. He took down an unmanned Destroyer instantly after coming back to life and having all of his abilities returned.

Hal then attempts to make a mini-sun Thor pounds in behind him. Breaking his concentration and pounds his skull in with the enchanted energy absorbing hammer that can create huge kinetic bursts.

Hal and any other more mature GL never displayed using such speeds strategically in battle.

When it killed the Frost Giants in Odin's chamber we saw the dead bodies on the floor afterward, so no, it did not "disintegrate". Its blast it more concussive and some heat by all appearances.

Again, that's deflection; not "absorbing" and where are you getting "absorbing is one of Mjolnir powers" from a film standpoint?

While the "green penis" was a joke, how does Thor dodge something moving a light-speed+?

LoL, more scripting. Hal makes a mini-sun, Thor is instantly being pulled in, there's nothing in the film that suggest Thor could resist something like that even for a second. Hal could make it right next to himself if he wanted, as he's resistant.

Nope, it disintegrated them. Only bodies you see on the ground are dead asgardians.

Originally posted by Mindset
Nope, it disintegrated them. Only bodies you see on the ground are dead asgardians.

Pretty sure you're wrong, as why would Odin post guards when the Destroyer was there specifically to guard? I have the film at home, so I can check later.

Though it doesn't really matter either way, as Mjolnir deflected the beam back into the Destroyer, didn't absorb it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Thor can't react that fast.

Could Thor smash it?

Could Thor get past GL's protective field? That thing is extremely resistant.

Thor winning this fight is a desperate reach at best.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Nope.

Originally posted by Robtard
Pretty sure you're wrong, as why would Odin post guards when the Destroyer was there specifically to guard? I have the film at home, so I can check later.

Though it doesn't really matter either way, as Mjolnir deflected the beam back into the Destroyer, didn't absorb it.

The Destroyer is Asgard's greatest weapon, it is the last resort.

I'm looking at it right now.

The first blasts he just knocked away, the last blast he either was absorbing it or dispelling it somehow and just flew through the Destroyer's head.

Originally posted by Robtard
Pretty sure you're wrong, as why would Odin post guards when the Destroyer was there specifically to guard? I have the film at home, so I can check later.

Though it doesn't really matter either way, as Mjolnir deflected the beam back into the Destroyer, didn't absorb it.

Nah I watched that scene multiple times at work after someone made that argument and saw that the bodies were the soldiers.
And two Frost Giants were turned to ash and another copped a beam.
I think one arm was sticking out of the ground afterwards.

Originally posted by Mindset
The Destroyer is Asgard's greatest weapon, it is the last resort.

I'm looking at it right now.

The first blasts he just knocked away, the last blast he either was absorbing it or dispelling it somehow and just flew through the Destroyer's head.

Yeah he aborbed it all the way down and used it's own power against it. A completely stratigical takedown for a unmanned Destroyer armor.

If Loki was in it it wouldnt have been so easy, he would've just stopped shooting.

Pretty sure the arm was from a frozen asgardian.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Nah I watched that scene multiple times at work after someone made that argument and saw that the bodies were the soldiers.
And two Frost Giants were turned to ash and another copped a beam.
I think one arm was sticking out of the ground afterwards.

Fair enough. Destroyer can disintegrate; what does that have anything to do with "Mjolnir absorbing Hal's attacks" as you claim?

Mini-sun /the end

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Nope.

We're taking about faster-than-light.

Proof?

Proof?

Lol, fanboy.

Originally posted by Mindset
Pretty sure the arm was from a frozen asgardian.

Cool. It was a while back and I remember the arm. And the others being turned to dust.

Originally posted by Robtard
Fair enough. Destroyer can disintegrate; what does that have anything to do with "Mjolnir absorbing Hal's attacks" as you claim?

Mini-sun /the end


It absorbs energy, it's one of its trademarks.

I've already told a scenario 3 times as to how he handles the mini-sun theory. Sun goes down once Thor crashes in.

Thor was easily taking blasts from Gungnir which onshotted King Laufey, for w/e that's worth.

Originally posted by Mindset
Thor was easily taking blasts from Gungnir which onshotted King Laufey, for w/e that's worth.

😉 It blasted Laufey apart. All it did to Thor was push him back.

Originally posted by Robtard
We're taking about faster-than-light.

Proof?

Proof?

Lol, fanboy.

Hal doesn't have ftl fight speed.

Mjolnir.

Mjolnir.

Lol, get mad.

Originally posted by Mindset
Hal doesn't have ftl fight speed.

Mjolnir.

Mjolnir.

Lol, get mad.

He flew to the sun (from Earth) in about a minute. So flying at someone is just that.

No limit fallacy.

No limit fallacy.

No one gets mad here. Blind fanboyism is funny though.

Originally posted by Robtard
He flew to the sun (from Earth) in about a minute. So flying at someone is just that.

No limit fallacy.

No limit fallacy.

No one gets mad here. Blind fanboyism is funny though.

Flight speed =/= fight speed.

That's not a no limits fallacy.

You are super mad.

Originally posted by Mindset
Flight speed =/= fight speed.

That's not a no limits fallacy.

You are super mad.

"flying at someone", he wouldn't be trying to punch Thor in that scenario.

Yes, you're implying Mjolnir can destroy anything.

Funny.

Anyhow, mini-sun, pretty much ends this a second after it starts.

So they fly at each other and Thor oneshots him with Mjolnir.

No, not anything, just Hal's constructs.

I am.

Thor throws Mjolnir through Hal's face as soon as the fight starts.

Originally posted by Mindset

Thor throws Mjolnir through Hal's face as soon as the fight starts.

Before it reaches, the min-sun would be up (speed of thoughts and such) and Mjolnir is pulled in, along with Thor. Boom.