Originally posted by zopzop
When the rings run out of power and need recharging, the GLs have greater than human level stats? Scans?LOL Omega Vision can't comprehend what he's reading. 🙄
The part where you act like Green Lanterns can't hang with people with physical stats on Thor's level just because without their rings they're human level? 😐
Originally posted by vansonbee
No, he using it as analogy, me thinks.
Originally posted by zopzop
So GLs with rings that have run out of power have superhuman stats? Scans?
I don't think anyone is arguing that Hal Jordan et all will be able to challenge Thor and Surfer if their rings are drained.
I just don't think it will be nearly as easy as some people make it out to be.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
They don't start off drained, and its not as if they're easy to drain.I don't think anyone is arguing that Hal Jordan et all will be able to challenge Thor and Surfer if their rings are drained.
I just don't think it will be nearly as easy as some people make it out to be.
I never said they would start out drained. Thor and Surfer would tax those rings to the limit. Once they start running out of power, then what? You have squishies at the mercy of Cl100 beings. Mjolnir and the Power Cosmic never need recharging and can't be drained (just look and see what happened when Quasar tried to drain the Surfer).
Originally posted by Cogito
and GLs have energy draining feats as well, who's to say they can't drain the Power Cosmic from Surfer?It gets too murky. And crossovers still aren't valid on these boards, as far as I know, even if they may or may not be canon to DC.
Quasar tried draining Surfer and failed badly (I consider the Quantum Bands >>>>>>>>>>>GL ring in terms of energy manipulation).
The JLA/vengers was indeed canon to DC. The cosmic egg Krona collapsed into turned up in DC stories following that crossover.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JLA/Avengers
Really? Surfer and Thor crush the GLs.
Surfer has been shown to have planet busting energy attacks and can travel faster than the speed of light. Plus he can absorb energy. Not to mention being able to go back in time and crush all of the GLs as little babies.
Thor can simply drain the rings. He has been shown on multiple occasions to be able to drain energy or cut people off from their power sources, i.e. he drained the hulk of his gamma radiation, cut off jugernaut from the power of cytorak, and cut off the wrecking crew from the wrecker.
Take your pick as to how Surfer and Thor crush the GLs, but there is nothing stoping them from crushing each round of this. My bet is on planet busting energy (GLs shields have been seen to crumble from a punch from Black Atom and other powerhouses which are nowhere even close to planet busting) or time travel.
Originally posted by DarkestSonataSurfer has been shown to have planet busting energy attacks and can travel faster than the speed of light. Plus he can absorb energy.
So can GL's..
Originally posted by DarkestSonata
Not to mention being able to go back in time and crush all of the GLs as little babies.
Bit of a cheap shot. So does Surfer win against anyone who does not time travel??
Originally posted by DarkestSonata
(GLs shields have been seen to crumble from a punch from Black Atom and other powerhouses which are nowhere even close to planet busting) or time travel.
And other times they've held up against the likes of Supes, contained Supernovas, and even a Big Bang!! Theres no need to lowball.
Originally posted by BentleyAllan may be powerful but he is still has the same weaknesses as any Lanterns, mainly wood and organic material. Thor would easily destroy any constructs just using the butt of the handle on his hammer. Surfer would just have to blast them and their constructs with massive amounts of yellow energy or create a big wooden fort with big wooden walls and the lanterns wouldn't be able to do anything about it. Lantern rings have been drained in the past and they can be drained again.
Some people get ballsy by citing Surfer time-travel feats and ignoring the Lanterns best. Whoever considers they get past Allan in kidding himself anyways.
Originally posted by Brockalizer
Allan may be powerful but he is still has the same weaknesses as any Lanterns, mainly wood and organic material. Thor would easily destroy any constructs just using the butt of the handle on his hammer. Surfer would just have to blast them and their constructs with massive amounts of yellow energy or create a big wooden fort with big wooden walls and the lanterns wouldn't be able to do anything about it. Lantern rings have been drained in the past and they can be drained again.
Firstly, the yellow impurity has been overcome by Lanterns.
Secondly, Alan's wood weakness/inability to properly effect plant/organic material no longer applies at his current levels.
Alan's the most powerful person in this match.